Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board

Go Back   Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board > Contests + Other Interesting Racing Topics > Harness Racing


Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old 02-24-2020, 06:38 PM   #1
SchagFactorToWin
Registered User
 
SchagFactorToWin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: WNY
Posts: 444
any changes at YR and M1?

I've been away from handicapping since 2014 but decided to take it up again. I used to play Yonkers and Meadowlands.

Any changes to the tracks in the last 5 years?
SchagFactorToWin is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 02-27-2020, 09:37 PM   #2
coachv30
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Philadelphia area
Posts: 9,609
Quote:
Originally Posted by SchagFactorToWin View Post
I've been away from handicapping since 2014 but decided to take it up again. I used to play Yonkers and Meadowlands.

Any changes to the tracks in the last 5 years?
Yonkers got rid of the passing lane for one.
__________________
A wet track can cause handicapping havoc!!
coachv30 is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 02-27-2020, 09:48 PM   #3
tamaharbor
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 285
Carmine Abbatiello, Del Insko, Merritt Dokey, and Herve Fillion are not longer driving.
tamaharbor is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 02-28-2020, 04:44 AM   #4
Ray2000
Apple 2GS Wiz
 
Ray2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Clarion, Pa
Posts: 8,478
Quote:
Originally Posted by SchagFactorToWin View Post
I've been away from handicapping since 2014 but decided to take it up again. I used to play Yonkers and Meadowlands.

Any changes to the tracks in the last 5 years?

year 2014 had a new grandstand at the BigM
but not much has changed in handicapping


http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...d.php?t=108061

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-...-photos-2014-1
__________________
.
.
.The only sure thing about luck is that it will change.
Bret Harte
Ray2000 is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 02-29-2020, 10:34 AM   #5
SchagFactorToWin
Registered User
 
SchagFactorToWin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: WNY
Posts: 444
Did the removal of the passing lane effect the win rate of the outside posts?
SchagFactorToWin is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 02-29-2020, 11:05 AM   #6
baconswitchfarm
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 1,069
Quote:
Originally Posted by SchagFactorToWin View Post
Did the removal of the passing lane effect the win rate of the outside posts?





No, because they still fix every race.
baconswitchfarm is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 02-29-2020, 11:06 AM   #7
coachv30
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Philadelphia area
Posts: 9,609
Quote:
Originally Posted by SchagFactorToWin View Post
Did the removal of the passing lane effect the win rate of the outside posts?
I don't track it nor play Yonkers too much....but when I look, I seem to see more high paying 7's and 8's on occasion.
__________________
A wet track can cause handicapping havoc!!
coachv30 is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 03-01-2020, 07:18 AM   #8
pandy
Registered User
 
pandy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA.
Posts: 7,464
Quote:
Originally Posted by SchagFactorToWin View Post
I've been away from handicapping since 2014 but decided to take it up again. I used to play Yonkers and Meadowlands.

Any changes to the tracks in the last 5 years?

Yonkers moved the finish line since 2014. Years ago they wanted a longer stretch so they moved the finish line down, but that made it almost impossible to leave. So a few years ago they moved it back to the old spot so the stretch is back to 440 feet, but at least if a top driver has a sharp horse he may be able to get the lead from the outside posts. Although posts 7 and 8 are still terrible, much worse than the old wood bike days when you could actually bet those posts. I don't bet 7 and 8 at Yonkers but if I did, the only driver I would bet from those posts would be Jason Bartlett, who is the leading driver and one of the best "gate" drivers in the sport. Favorites are winning at 42%.

Yonkers also has a new GM, Alex Danoyan, and since he's been there the handle is up. He's made several changes in the wagering format, with more planned.

The Meadowlands, as you probably know, opened a new grandstand on the other side so most of the windy nights are now headwind nights instead of tailwind. That's one of the reasons why you don't see the third and fourth over closers win as often as they used to. They only race Friday and Saturday but the racing is a good product compared to most harness tracks because it's not as speed favoring and you can still get some good payoffs. Shippers from New York, including Saratoga, can win. Driver Dexter Dunn came in from down under last year and made a splash. He's as good as any driver there and a forced to be reckoned with. Pat Berry and Marcus Miller have been the reliable under the radar longshot drivers.
pandy is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 03-01-2020, 08:58 AM   #9
ucancallmemrlucky
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 7,056
Yonkers should definitely try allowing the and posts to race from the 2nd tier. The Canadian "B" tracks like Flamboro and Western Fair are doing it and it does make for more interesting racing.
ucancallmemrlucky is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Reply





Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

» Advertisement
» Current Polls
Wh deserves to be the favorite? (last 4 figures)
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 1999 - 2023 -- PaceAdvantage.Com -- All Rights Reserved
We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program
designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.