NY Residents Can Kiss Their Rebates Goodbye Comes The New Year

[riskman]

Originally Posted by Pacingguy

To make it even simplier, you ADW which provides you a rebate leaves forcing you to go to a NY ADW. With no competition, why should NYRA offer you a rebate?

Why should NYRA offer me a rebate?
Because I am a New york resident and I legally qualify under all the rules of NYRA rewards. I have had an account with NYRA for many years and I will get a rebate under the schedule for wagering activity on file with NYRA.
There is competition, do your research and find out.

[Robert Goren]

The answer is to move to another state. But don't unpack your bags, because you might have move again. An stupidity plague seems to have hit the people that run racing in the past couple of years. I have always heard that stupidity is contagious. I guess this proves it.

[riskman]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

The answer is to move to another state. But don't unpack your bags, because you might have move again. An stupidity plague seems to have hit the people that run racing in the past couple of years. I have always heard that stupidity is contagious. I guess this proves it.

The poster that said he would move to another state. Agree, do not unpack your bags at your new location. Never know what is around the corner.
The poster claims he wagers primarily on Yonkers Raceway. If that is the case, Empire Bets is offering 8% rebate on this track from first dollar excluding place and show wagers. Grab it while you can get it, as they must have something planned to increase wagering at Yonkers. Knew Empire was working on an ADW for awhile and was surprised it is up and running. Unfortunately, this does help me but I noticed they are offering 5% at Keenland.
Voigorish a poster on this board started a thread on this a few days ago but I did not see any comments posted.

[Hoofless_Wonder]

Originally Posted by Seabiscuit@AR

Hoofless Wonder

This story from Australia in October tells you HK opening up its pools is not far away and I reckon this time it is true. They will probably go with Australia first and then not long after they will do the same deal with the USA and other places

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horserac...007-2v4by.html

Thanks for the link, Seabiscuit. Wish I shared your optimism. There was a company lined up to take the HK signal last go 'round, but I'd lay a fair amount of dough on what happened is that the NA tracks and their cronies squashed it.

I look forward to the day I can wager, commingled, into Sha Tin's pools, or better yet play via some racebooks - but I'll only believe it when I see it...

In the meantime, I'll try to play a track or two in North America that doesn't charge outrageous takeout, signal fees, provide huge rebates to whales or otherwise penalize the smaller player. I think I'm down to Tampa, Oaklawn, and the Kentucky tracks....

[thespaah]

Originally Posted by SchagFactorToWin

Thanks- I didn't notice that (although most of my wagering is at YR). Looks like I'll be getting an out-of-state address!

Out of state address?
What will that do for you?
It is my understanding most ADW's run credit checks on applicants. The credit reporting agencies reveal the applicant's location, last known address, banking info, etc. Not only that, it is also my understanding that some ADW's use IP address tracking methods. This reveals the location of the computer being used to interface with the ADW.
I could be wrong about this..
I live in a state where it is illegal to bet with US Based ADW's..it sucks.
I'd could use use friend's or family member's addresses but I gave up on the idea.

[SchagFactorToWin]

Originally Posted by thespaah

It is my understanding most ADW's run credit checks on applicants. The credit reporting agencies reveal the applicant's location, last known address, banking info, etc. Not only that, it is also my understanding that some ADW's use IP address tracking methods. This reveals the location of the computer being used to interface with the ADW.

I have had 8 ADW accounts, never a credit check. DL, bank account, yes.

I've contacted ADWs about the IP address issue. I have some plans to travel and asked them if they go by my mailing address at sign-up or by IP address, as I would be travelling through states that do not allow online gambling. Every one said: address on file.

[thespaah]

Originally Posted by SchagFactorToWin

I have had 8 ADW accounts, never a credit check. DL, bank account, yes.

I've contacted ADWs about the IP address issue. I have some plans to travel and asked them if they go by my mailing address at sign-up or by IP address, as I would be travelling through states that do not allow online gambling. Every one said: address on file.

So how do you get around the driver's license and bank account issues?
If your DL and bank accounts are in a state that is restricted or does not permit ADW betting, what do you do then?

[SchagFactorToWin]

Get those things in a state that does.

[acorn54]

Originally Posted by the little guy

Better to remain silent, and have others believe you're dumb, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

yes i am sure the rest of us would like know what you know that is contrary to the conclusions being drawn on this new law.

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by acorn54

yes i am sure the rest of us would like know what you know that is contrary to the conclusions being drawn on this new law.

Don't hold breath!

[Saratoga_Mike]

Originally Posted by the little guy

Better to remain silent, and have others believe you're dumb, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Andy, this seems unfair at least without elaboration. You asked posters to actually read the bill. I did and I posted the most relevant language. From my read of the bill, it doesn't make sense that NYRA would have supported its passage. Is that what you're saying is incorrect about Jeff P's claims?

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by SchagFactorToWin

Get those things in a state that does.

Not very easily done these days. Thank you 9/11.

[davefulche]

Haven't posted here in a little while. But I have almost completely stopped playing the game. I lost my ADW that I liked because of the Pennsylvania law. And I rather swallow nails then give Penn National more money. They treat their loyal OTW customers like garbage and the rewards program is an absolute joke. Wager $1000 and maybe get a program or $5 rewards. I have continued to play a contest here and there on derbywars.com and I have basically funneled all my money into Daily Fantasy Sports.

[Hoofless_Wonder]

Originally Posted by the little guy

Better to remain silent, and have others believe you're dumb, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

I've never understood the logic of this "wise saying". Probably because I really don't give a rat's ass what others think about me - I'm too lazy to have that much vanity.

It'll be interesting to see the fallout from this law. If non-New York based ADWs actually close accounts or otherwise inconvenience the NY residents, then NYRA bears the responsibility of dropping the ball here, assuming their mission is to promote business practices and changes in laws that promote the sport.

[the little guy]

Originally Posted by Hoofless_Wonder

It'll be interesting to see the fallout from this law. If non-New York based ADWs actually close accounts or otherwise inconvenience the NY residents, then NYRA bears the responsibility of dropping the ball here, assuming their mission is to promote business practices and changes in laws that promote the sport.

None of this makes any sense.