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Old 02-03-2018, 07:05 PM   #406
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National security does not trump individual Constitutional rights in peace time without a state of emergency.

An American Citizen, whether he is likable or not, is entitled to Constitutional rights.
You are wrong this is why FISA courts exist.
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Old 02-03-2018, 07:06 PM   #407
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do you realize how far away from an independent you are? You make Mostie blush at times.
I'm not I'm a fiscal conservative.

Great comeback though.

So we shouldn't spy on suspected counter intelligence agents? Or people the Russians might have turned?

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Old 02-03-2018, 07:07 PM   #408
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Just like IRAN, who we gave nukes to, right?

What we DO know is that RUSSIA is a great friend to both 0bama and Hillary.
Open your other eye - you are missing half the world.
And more deflections..

If Russia is such a great friend of Hillary why we're you touting Putin just a couple of months ago.

You're as fairweather as they come. As long as it fits the narrative it's useful when it doesn't it's garbage.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:28 PM   #409
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You are wrong this is why FISA courts exist.
The FISA court does not take away Constitutional rights, it certainly can be abused as it was in this instance.

You seem to be making an argument we need a national secret police force, like the KGB, to have national security.

We will see how wrong I am, when charges are dropped due to the fruit of the poisonous tree.

Carter Page's lawyers are gleeful.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:59 PM   #410
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And more deflections..

If Russia is such a great friend of Hillary why we're you touting Putin just a couple of months ago.

You're as fairweather as they come. As long as it fits the narrative it's useful when it doesn't it's garbage.
You really need to try to keep up.
You obviously do not have a clue what is going on day to day.
Hint - look up sarcasm in your Funk & Wagnel's.
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:53 AM   #411
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Trump's lawyers: Mr. President, we'd rather you not sit down with Mueller, cuz, you know.. you're such a #@!& liar..

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/05/u...interview.html
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Are you trying to impress someone, if so you are failing bigly.
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Old 02-06-2018, 04:47 PM   #413
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I was just watching a show on AHC last night, about Hitler's rise.
They had a segment in it about how, during the invasions and atrocities, the NYT did a sit down interview with him, painting him in a good light, showing him and his dogs......real puff piece about him.

Good ole NYTImes - antin-american from the git go.

Nice source, Dan. Real nice.
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Old 02-06-2018, 05:01 PM   #414
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I was just watching a show on AHC last night, about Hitler's rise.
They had a segment in it about how, during the invasions and atrocities, the NYT did a sit down interview with him, painting him in a good light, showing him and his dogs......real puff piece about him.

Good ole NYTImes - antin-american from the git go.

Nice source, Dan. Real nice.
How about Rumsfeld embracing Saddam Hussein in the early 1980s?

I guess it turns out that you're the only one who can see perfectly into the future.
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Old 02-06-2018, 05:21 PM   #415
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Good ole NYTImes - antin-american from the git go.


Tom <-- 2017 Russia is our enemy. Russia must be destroyed. GOD DAMN Russia.

Tom 2017 --> Russia is our friend. Russia is great. THANK GOD for Russia.

Lectures about anti-americanism from Tom:
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Old 02-06-2018, 11:36 PM   #416
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How about Rumsfeld embracing Saddam Hussein in the early 1980s?

I guess it turns out that you're the only one who can see perfectly into the future.
Future?
Hitler was well known at the time for his conquering of Europe.
to all but the liberal NYTimes.

SH was a known murdering POS in the 1970s.
No surprises here. Just another moron playing games with dictators.

Rumsfeld is and has been a jerk for decades.
I was calling him out long before our troops hit Baghdad.
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Old 02-06-2018, 11:38 PM   #417
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Tom <-- 2017 Russia is our enemy. Russia must be destroyed. GOD DAMN Russia.

Tom 2017 --> Russia is our friend. Russia is great. THANK GOD for Russia.

Lectures about anti-americanism from Tom:
See, this is why you are fun to play with.
To GD dumb to know sarcasm when I post it.
I can post any shit I want and land you in the boat.
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Old 02-06-2018, 11:55 PM   #418
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See, this is why you are fun to play with.
To GD dumb to know sarcasm when I post it.
I can post any shit I want and land you in the boat.
Russia
Putin
Assange
Snowden

A couple flips that come to mind... a few of those you've even wanted exterminated in the past.
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I can post any shit I want and land you in the boat.
Your boat sank from shit overload a lonnng time ago
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Old 02-07-2018, 10:31 AM   #420
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Russia
Putin
Assange
Snowden

A couple flips that come to mind... a few of those you've even wanted exterminated in the past.
No flip on Putin.
When you look at Putin, he is a dictator, a murderer, but when you put him next to a democrat, you can see his good points.

The others, is it your opinion that people never change their minds when new information or circumstances come to light?

A mind is not set in concrete, unless it is a liberal mind.
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