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08-17-2018, 09:36 PM
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I don't think they're going to nail him on much if anything it appears.
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08-17-2018, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chadk66
I don't think they're going to nail him on much if anything it appears.
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Even if acquitted of all of these current charges, they will probably keep him in solitary confinement for 23 hours per day until the next trial is over.
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08-21-2018, 04:17 PM
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What is the deal with that?
Innocent until proven guilty? Not in this country I guess.
Vindictive little POS Mueller no doubt.
Court is convening - may have a partial verdict.
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08-21-2018, 04:40 PM
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Could not reach a verdict on 10 of 18 counts.
Guilty on some tax stuff.
0 to do with Trump.
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08-21-2018, 04:41 PM
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Guilty on 8 of 18. Tax fraud, foreign bank fraud. Surprised. Not.
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08-21-2018, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by woodtoo
Guilty on 8 of 18. Tax fraud, foreign bank fraud. Surprised. Not.
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doesn't make any difference one way or the other, these guys aren't going to do time. and then they will write books and make movies.
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08-21-2018, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
doesn't make any difference one way or the other, these guys aren't going to do time. and then they will write books and make movies.
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Manafort's going to do serious time unless Trump pardons him.
And of course he's also facing more charges in a separate case of conspiring against the United States, conspiring to launder money, failing to register as an agent of a foreign principal and providing false statements.
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08-21-2018, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Manafort's going to do serious time unless Trump pardons him.
And of course he's also facing more charges in a separate case of conspiring against the United States, conspiring to launder money, failing to register as an agent of a foreign principal and providing false statements.
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FanDan, let us know when Mueller goes after Tony (and John) Podesta for the same crimes Manafort is charged with. Oh well, forget about the criminal Podesta's; we know the Podesta's were given a free pass by Mueller.
How does that sit you??
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08-21-2018, 05:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Manafort's going to do serious time unless Trump pardons him.
And of course he's also facing more charges in a separate case of conspiring against the United States, conspiring to launder money, failing to register as an agent of a foreign principal and providing false statements.
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The evidentiary precedents in this trial laid down by the prosecutors will allow more of Rick Gates who has already flipped to testify and pin very serious charges on Trump next month in Manaforts second trial
The Russian/Ukrainian intel connection is up next, unless Cohen beats them to it.
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08-21-2018, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
The evidentiary precedents in this trial laid down by the prosecutors will allow more of Rick Gates who has already flipped to testify and pin very serious charges on Trump next month in Manaforts second trial
The Russian/Ukrainian intel connection is up next, unless Cohen beats them to it.
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Cohen is done.
That is a whole new ****ing can of worms for the President.
They are not related anymore and its now obvious why Mueller kicked that to the New York US Attorney's Office.
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08-21-2018, 06:05 PM
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gelding
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Originally Posted by reckless
FanDan, let us know when Mueller goes after Tony (and John) Podesta for the same crimes Manafort is charged with. Oh well, forget about the criminal Podesta's; we know the Podesta's were given a free pass by Mueller. How does that sit you??
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Mueller referred the case of Tony Podesta to NY federal prosecuters, which is anything but a free pass, as Michael Cohen might tell you.
Aug 1:
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Special counsel Robert Mueller has referred a collection of cases to New York federal prosecutors concerning whether several high-profile American lobbyists and operatives failed to register their work as foreign agents, according to people familiar with the matter.
The transfer of the inquiries marks an escalation of Mueller's referrals to the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York in the period since he turned over a case involving President Donald Trump's former personal attorney, Michael Cohen.
Since the spring, Mueller has referred matters to SDNY involving longtime Democratic lobbyist Tony Podesta and his work for his former firm, the Podesta Group, and former Minnesota Republican Rep. Vin Weber and his work for Mercury Public Affairs, the sources said.
One source said that former Obama White House counsel Greg Craig, a former partner at law firm Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP, is also part of the inquiry.
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/31/polit...ork/index.html
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08-21-2018, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Cohen is done.
That is a whole new ****ing can of worms for the President.
They are not related anymore and its now obvious why Mueller kicked that to the New York US Attorney's Office.
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Cohen may have more on Trump. Cohen claimed Trump knew in advance of 2016 Trump Tower meeting. Does he have the goods?
Trump and Rudy have lied constantly about that. Can of worms is right.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/26/polit...dge/index.html
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08-21-2018, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
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What do think will happen to Trump after all the Cohen dirt and illegalities come to the fore?
Remember, Cohen pled to all of his crimes -- there was no jury finding him guilty. Cohen admitted to be a crook and a crumb bum.
Cohen is the criminal party. Trump didn't commit any crimes, try as all you lunatics try to find one, it isn't there. There's no there, there.
One more thing: do you think Trump will get impeached if Cohen 'turns' on Trump as he's hinted at possibly doing?
Please say yes so we can ridicule you even more than we normally do. 
(Trump cannot be impeached for alleged bad behavior before becoming President, for all you poli sci know-it-alls.)
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08-21-2018, 06:51 PM
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What is the over/under on the number of days before the Podestas get indicted by the NYSD court?? -- Ha, ha, ha.
What is the over/under on the number of counts against said the Podestas by the NYSD court?? -- Ha, ha, ha.
The memo has already been written, sent, read and winked at and agreed to: the Podestas got a free pass while Manafort is looking at 300+ years. And Tony Podesta was Manafort's business partner in all this.
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08-21-2018, 08:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reckless
What is the over/under on the number of days before the Podestas get indicted by the NYSD court?? -- Ha, ha, ha.
What is the over/under on the number of counts against said the Podestas by the NYSD court?? -- Ha, ha, ha.
The memo has already been written, sent, read and winked at and agreed to: the Podestas got a free pass while Manafort is looking at 300+ years. And Tony Podesta was Manafort's business partner in all this.
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it's called "picking winners and losers"
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