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10-21-2011, 01:14 PM
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not4love
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NY Gate Crew!!!
The worst gate crew in the country. 1st race today. They had the numbers posted wrong on top of the starting gate. Before they hit the button all the men inside were looking up and out the front. The 5 horse was marked 2B. They broke anyway. What the He>>!!!!! I know they had to refund money at least twice this year at the Spa. It was so bad a couple years ago that they had to fire the "starter" in the middle of the meet.
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10-21-2011, 01:17 PM
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Racing Form Detective
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How does having the wrong numbers on the front of the starting gate effect the race?
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10-21-2011, 02:16 PM
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not4love
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It OBVIOUSLY doesn't. The thread was meant to point out their incompetence.
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10-21-2011, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
How does having the wrong numbers on the front of the starting gate effect the race?
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A really attentive horse may refuse to break.
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10-21-2011, 02:30 PM
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Thanks for the heads up.
I make my own trip notes. Part of that process involves watching the head on replay of the break. (I'm not the only player who does this.) If the gate has the saddle cloth numbers mislabeled - it becomes easy to create a trip note about the break for the wrong horse.
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10-21-2011, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff P
Thanks for the heads up.
I make my own trip notes. Part of that process involves watching the head on replay of the break. (I'm not the only player who does this.) If the gate has the saddle cloth numbers mislabeled - it becomes easy to create a trip note about the break for the wrong horse.
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If you watch races, and aren't able to realize that the number above the gate was wrong, then your trip notes don't rate to be worth much.
This thread is nitpicking....at best.
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10-21-2011, 03:37 PM
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no big deal
no big deal about the numbers as long as the horses were lined up properly, which it seems they were. I like that the no. 1 Lady Cohiba, spotted the field several lengths at the start and then finished first at a good price.
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10-21-2011, 03:41 PM
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the gate crew chief at sulfolk just passed on last week.
on another note, the gate crew in NYRA is the very best anywhere. i don't care how many numbers they mix up, they do a great job loading up problem horses with the tiniest delays in the industry.. i have never had a problem with the gate in new york, mountaineer used to be awful, they are much better today.
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10-21-2011, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff P
As is your post attacking the player who makes his own trip notes for races from all over the country each day.
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I stand by my post. Your comments speak for themselves....in a few ways.
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10-21-2011, 04:26 PM
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intus habes, quem poscis
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Originally Posted by cj's dad
A really attentive horse may refuse to break.
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I know for a fact they can only count to 4, so I'm not sure this theory holds. Now jockies on the other hand......
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10-21-2011, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by OTM Al
Now jockies on the other hand......
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No worries, they can't get past two.
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10-21-2011, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by the little guy
If you watch races, and aren't able to realize that the number above the gate was wrong, then your trip notes don't rate to be worth much.
This thread is nitpicking....at best.
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I might see it differently if I were following a single circuit.
But I'm playing multiple tracks from around the US and Canada.
I seldom watch races live. But I do make trip notes for the circuits I follow from replays. One area I've found particularly useful for my notes is the head on shot of the break.
Look, I'm not picking on NYRA. (They do a lot of things right.)
But all things considered, I'd prefer gate crews everywhere get the saddle cloth numbers right.
(If that's nitpicking so be it.)
-jp
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Last edited by Jeff P; 10-21-2011 at 04:47 PM.
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10-21-2011, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff P
I might see it differently if I were following a single circuit.
But I'm playing multiple tracks from around the US and Canada.
I seldom watch races live. But I do make trip notes for the circuits I follow from replays. One area I've found particularly useful for my notes is the head on shot of the break.
Look, I'm not picking on NYRA. (They do a lot of things right.)
But all things considered, I'd prefer gate crews everywhere get the saddle cloth numbers right.
(If that's nitpicking so be it.)
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You do realize the saddlecloth was not wrong...right?
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10-21-2011, 04:59 PM
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You do realize I'm talking about the placards (with numbers printed on them) above each stall in the starting gate, right?
All things considered, I'd prefer those match the saddle cloth numbers of the horses.
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Last edited by Jeff P; 10-21-2011 at 05:01 PM.
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10-21-2011, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff P
You do realize I'm talking about the placards (with numbers printed on them) above each stall in the starting gate, right?
All things considered, I'd prefer those match the saddle cloth numbers of the horses.
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Oh, so you can't take trip notes properly if the placards on top of the gate are wrong?
If so, I stand by my opinion about your trip notes.
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