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01-17-2010, 09:30 PM
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Sorry about the double post.
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01-17-2010, 09:31 PM
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he ran as fast as he can today, and Brown has him finishing well.
he still has to shake the label that he can only perform on a clear lead.
That race a few back at Aqueduct it looked like Dominguez's tactics were to press him early- the one where he was caught late
Ravalo gets second in this race if migs doesn't move too early
I don't know how fast they went early today vs. what the best sprinters would go. <--EDIT ouch at the clmr split comparisons
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01-17-2010, 09:33 PM
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Why are we debating a horses merits based on a race in Dec. on the AQU inner and the Maryland circuit? This isn't even worth discussing. Good for Digger and his connections for getting some winter purses. I wouldn't call it a reflection on positive merits of the horse.
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01-17-2010, 09:34 PM
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he ran as fast as he can today, and Brown has him finishing well.
he still has to shake the label that he can only perform on a clear lead.
That race a few back at Aqueduct it looked like Dominguez's tactics were to press him early- the one where he was caught late
Ravalo gets second in this race if migs doesn't move too early
I don't know how fast they went early today vs. what the best sprinters would go.
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He pressed the pace for a victory on a 44.4 pace back in July at Belmont.
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01-17-2010, 09:39 PM
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He pressed the pace for a victory on a 44.4 pace back in July at Belmont.
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Yes, a 5 horse field where he beat the mighty Shoptate. He's a nice horse. Capable of running a good race when the conditions suit. But he's not a monster.
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01-17-2010, 09:40 PM
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I think showing his splits versus those from a $25K claiming race made the point fairly clearly.....at least for some.
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Really why didn't you show us the splits for the Allowance Optional that ran later during the day? Quite obvious to anyone paying attention, that as the day progressed the track was getting slower.
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01-17-2010, 09:40 PM
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To anyone rational he does not look like a monster, Andy. Keep letting fools overbet bad horses - we will profit in the longrun.
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Sadly, the pools are not made up of money from people with opinions like this.
What's funny is that when I saw a thread about Digger I thought someone might be pointing out that he has now gotten away with murder on the front end in two straight races and that he will be a great bet against down the road. Silly me.
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01-17-2010, 09:41 PM
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Sorry about the double post.
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Seeing how your posts appeared sequentially -- both before and after absurd posts by the B-Pirate -- I thought that it was intentionally... and funny.
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01-17-2010, 09:42 PM
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Yes, a 5 horse field where he beat the mighty Shoptate. He's a nice horse. Capable of running a good race when the conditions suit. But he's not a monster.
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Here's a better measuring stick:
Would Mike Smith bother to keep Zenyatta within range of Digger on a speed-favoring surface?
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01-17-2010, 09:44 PM
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Here's a better measuring stick:
Would Mike Smith bother to keep Zenyatta within range of Digger on a speed-favoring surface?
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My kingdom for a thread without "Zenyatta."
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01-17-2010, 09:46 PM
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He pressed the pace for a victory on a 44.4 pace back in July at Belmont.
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i give him more credit for pressing the pace, than for wire jobs although neither race had very good sprinters.
The following race were he also pressed and inherited the lead, and gayego put him away was telling.
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01-17-2010, 09:48 PM
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Sadly, the pools are not made up of money from people with opinions like this.
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Sadly, you are again in the majority here. Typical of what a public handicapper does.
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01-17-2010, 09:49 PM
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Really why didn't you show us the splits for the Allowance Optional that ran later during the day? Quite obvious to anyone paying attention, that as the day progressed the track was getting slower.
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Not so clear if you look at the pps from the 2nd race versus the 8th....or the 1st versus the 9th ( both of those were at 5 1/2 furlongs ). At the most any change wouldn't alter the fact that Digger set a very slow pace in relative terms.
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01-17-2010, 09:51 PM
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i give him more credit for pressing the pace, than for wire jobs although neither race had very good sprinters.
The following race were he also pressed and inherited the lead, and gayego put him away was telling.
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I thought that was a good run first time over the Saratoga course.
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01-17-2010, 09:54 PM
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I thought that was a good run first time over the Saratoga course.
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His first time over the Saratoga course was a good run. Won by 6 3/4 in August of 2007.
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