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02-23-2008, 01:42 PM
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maximan
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Mario Pino
Why anyone would ever put this guy on a horse? Andy Beyer said it best...
If you tried to purposely keep a horse out of the money, you couldn't have done it better than Pino in Aqueducts 3rd race (Gold and Blue Box)
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02-23-2008, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by AQUEBUCKS
Why anyone would ever put this guy on a horse?
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I have Pino overall since Oct 28%W .99 ROI. 7/19 since Feb2 at Aqu. In routes since Oct 36%W 1.32 ROI. On my top power rated horse he is winning at 52% -better than almost all of the highly regarded jocks.
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02-23-2008, 02:57 PM
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Aquebucks is right. It was a horrible ride.
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02-23-2008, 05:39 PM
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Would it have been a terrible ride if the rail didn't close up and he won? Here's a jock that tries to find a hole rather than circle the field and because it didn't work out he's a bum. Get Real 
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02-23-2008, 06:42 PM
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It was a horrendous ride. I posted on another site it's the running for cracking the Top 5 of my Worst Rides in Racing List. When the nominating committee meets tonight, I'll know more.
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02-23-2008, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pell Mell
Would it have been a terrible ride if the rail didn't close up and he won? Here's a jock that tries to find a hole rather than circle the field and because it didn't work out he's a bum. Get Real |
Did you watch the race? It had disaster written all over it from the start.
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02-23-2008, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TravisVOX
Did you watch the race? It had disaster written all over it from the start.
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To me, what made that ride even worse was that it was a six horse race - the horse should never have gotten into that kind of trouble in such a short field.
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02-23-2008, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by AQUEBUCKS
If you tried to purposely keep a horse out of the money, you couldn't have done it better than Pino in Aqueducts 3rd race (Gold and Blue Box)
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You do realize he had the rail path behind the 1-2 favorite? If that horse draws away and wins like a 1-2, this horse finishes 2nd.
You also realize the "King of Aqueduct", Ramon Dominguez was on that horse?
Ad infinitum in other threads, jocks were roasted for going wide. Now we have a jock save ground only to be stopped by the Kings 1-2 favorite and it is viewed "purposely keeping the horse out of the money".
Love the New York fans! 
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02-23-2008, 11:36 PM
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PINO !!!!
Second in the Kentucky Derby and the Breeders Cup
Will you people get a God damn life !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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02-23-2008, 11:42 PM
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Has ridden over 6,000 winners in his career cant be that bad,better on the turf then dirt.
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02-24-2008, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by cj's dad
Second in the Kentucky Derby and the Breeders Cup
Will you people get a God damn life !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Not necessary. He rode a bad race, in my opinion. If you disagree, rather than throw out pointless attacks, tell us why.
To use career victories is like saying Jack Nicklaus could beat Tiger Woods... I mean afterall, he has more major victories!
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02-24-2008, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AQUEBUCKS
Why anyone would ever put this guy on a horse? Andy Beyer said it best...
If you tried to purposely keep a horse out of the money, you couldn't have done it better than Pino in Aqueducts 3rd race (Gold and Blue Box)
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Pino was thinking about the 3d race while riding the #2 Strummer in the 7th
so from the 1 post on a horse w/tactical speed he came 6 wide into the stretch and blew the win,back to the minors at Laurel he sucks.
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02-24-2008, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by exiles
Pino was thinking about the 3d race while riding the #2 Strummer in the 7th
so from the 1 post on a horse w/tactical speed he came 6 wide into the stretch and blew the win,back to the minors at Laurel he sucks.
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It is amazing how we can watch the same race and come up with completely different opinions. Mine is right of course.
I bet Strummer ( In exactas with Berry Bound and the winner, Regal Prince was it? ) and was elated when Pino decided to take him off the pace. I noticed in his pp's that he had rated and ran pretty well before and everyone from Dave Liftin to amatuer bloggers made mention of how much speed was in that race and did you see where the pace horses finished? So instead of being stuck along the rail, dueling through very fast fractions ( 22 flat wasn't it? ) he takes back and makes a run from off the pace and gives his horse a fighting chance.
A very heady ride if you ask me. But to each his own.
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02-24-2008, 01:13 AM
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It is also amazing that Pino is getting crucified for trying to find a hole on the rail while N. Arroyo was FULL OF RUN in the 7th race with Champchu but got stopped cold along the rail not once, but twice and yet no one has mentioned that yet.
I also felt like Pino's ride in the 1st race aboard Soulshine was heady. Soulshine had proven to be a hanger and Pino put him in the race and got him on the lead early.
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02-24-2008, 07:36 AM
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To use career victories is like saying Jack Nicklaus could beat Tiger Woods... I mean afterall, he has more major victories!
It doesnt matter where the victories came from only 15 jocks have accomplished this.
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