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11-08-2018, 05:24 PM
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#481
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
For about 10 seconds before a judge shuts that down.
Good thing we have AG Oddjob...er Whitaker... to argue on behalf of the Administration.
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Probably but he's doing it anyway
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11-08-2018, 05:25 PM
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#482
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Originally Posted by azeri98
Probably but he's doing it anyway
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Sure.
And it will be in effect for a few hours.
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11-08-2018, 05:37 PM
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#483
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Sure.
And it will be in effect for a few hours.
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most likely until next week, the courts don't move that fast
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11-08-2018, 07:58 PM
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#484
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Just another Facist
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
<Shrug>
I'll wager people who are willing to walk 1000 miles to get here are willing to work once here.
One of our companies can't fill staffing orders. I'd happily take 300 of these people.
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Now that’s funny. 300 adults? How about their kids?
Which city or county are you willing to inflict them on?
Immediately ten problems become 3000. Who will absorb the medical needs of these 300 people? How about the language barrier? You can get past that in about 6 months normally, but the new employee is almost useless for 6 months.
Don’t forget that they all are going to require housing/food/direction and transportation assistance. You can’t just throw them into jobs. 300 new foreigners would be a nightmare for any company, county, city and don’t forget the criminal element. The cops are going to love you and your new hires
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11-08-2018, 08:08 PM
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#485
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Now that’s funny. 300 adults? How about their kids?
Which city or county are you willing to inflict them on?
Immediately ten problems become 3000. Who will absorb the medical needs of these 300 people? How about the language barrier? You can get past that in about 6 months normally, but the new employee is almost useless for 6 months.
Don’t forget that they all are going to require housing/food/direction and transportation assistance. You can’t just throw them into jobs. 300 new foreigners would be a nightmare for any company, county, city and don’t forget the criminal element. The cops are going to love you and your new hires
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Missed both points of that post.
Speaking of this thread though... sure has gotten quiet lately about the Caravan.
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 11-08-2018 at 08:11 PM.
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11-08-2018, 08:30 PM
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#486
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The Voice of Reason!
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Maybe you just don't get anything.
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11-08-2018, 08:31 PM
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#487
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Sure.
And it will be in effect for a few hours.
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This is a job for SPECIAL K.
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11-08-2018, 08:37 PM
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#488
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gelding
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Speaking of this thread though... sure has gotten quiet lately about the Caravan.
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11-08-2018, 08:57 PM
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#489
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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Points.
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11-08-2018, 08:59 PM
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#490
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
This is a job for SPECIAL K.
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Would rule against it.
I'll bet dollars to doughnuts nobody here has actually read an Decision by him.
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11-08-2018, 09:35 PM
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#491
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
This is a job for SPECIAL K.
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I'm thinking more like CUCKOO FOR COCOA PUFFS
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11-08-2018, 09:41 PM
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#492
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Resurrectionist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barahona44
I'm thinking more like CUCKOO FOR COCOA PUFFS
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No reason to bring Mad Maxine into this.
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11-08-2018, 10:10 PM
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#493
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Location: Behind the Pine Curtain
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
Maybe you just don't get anything.
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If Ely missed the points Ralph made in post 484, then your absolutely right.
Another problem is the schools have to absorb these kids. In My wife's last year of teaching full time, a 17 year old from Mexico was placed in her 6th grade classroom after the kid was assessed. She raised holy hell (she had this same problem a multitude of times in Dallas when she taught there) for all the obvious reasons. 17 year old boy, 12 year old girls... Not a good environment
The kid didn't speak English, couldn't read on the 6th grade level, was so far behind it dragged the other kids down with him.
It has to stop. Our kids are falling farther and farther behind here. Pisses me off.
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11-08-2018, 11:34 PM
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#494
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gelding
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ElKabong
Another problem is the schools have to absorb these kids. In My wife's last year of teaching full time, a 17 year old from Mexico was placed in her 6th grade classroom after the kid was assessed. She raised holy hell (she had this same problem a multitude of times in Dallas when she taught there) for all the obvious reasons. 17 year old boy, 12 year old girls... Not a good environment
The kid didn't speak English, couldn't read on the 6th grade level, was so far behind it dragged the other kids down with him.
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Did your wife happen to teach in a one room schoolhouse in Oklahoma circa 1865? Or in a tent in your backyard? Because otherwise the situation you describe is not only preposterous, it's also illegal, and no school would be doing it unless they were keen on being sued by families and being fined a million dollars or two by the state.
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11-09-2018, 01:26 AM
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#495
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Did your wife happen to teach in a one room schoolhouse in Oklahoma circa 1865? Or in a tent in your backyard? Because otherwise the situation you describe is not only preposterous, it's also illegal, and no school would be doing it unless they were keen on being sued by families and being fined a million dollars or two by the state.
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You don't know what you're talking about. Bilingual here ends at 5th grade. ESL has a max of 3 classes for kids 6th and beyond. She literally had kids in her math classes that couldn't speak English. She taught at DISD for over ten years, then charter schools for a few years as a Math dept specialist with a stint of math teaching in The Valley
Try teaching math to a kid that doesn't speak English. And the district says "good luck". That's reality here, Cletus. The school system here for the past 15 plus years have been a joke
Every kid in our neighborhood goes to a private school. Dallas Christian, Jesuit, St Thomas Aquinas or Greenhill. One kid transferred to Greenhill from a charter school and it took her 3 years to do so. Charter schools here are hit and miss but still much better than public.
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