Anyone care to share....

[coachv30]

Not looking for a thorough breakdown or to steal any secrets...BUT......is there anything, anyone can offer to aid in getting a better read on these foreign shippers in the BC? You know they're going to win a few and it's not always the low odds horse who wins.

[Tom]

I am buying TFUS PPS for both days. The TF ratings from overseas are comparable to the TF ratings for US races, so you have an apples to apples factor to look at. The comments for the foreign races are very good. They tell a lot about the horses.

Get the FREE BC Platers Guide at XpressBet. They put a lot of info into that.

Listen To ATR with Steve Byk, especially when he has Tony Luck on this week.

Look at the charts of pact BC at CD.
CD has a different surface than SA and Dmr andit may favor shippers from certain tracks. I'll be doing this the next couple of days.

Also, be advised Turf to CD dirt first time is not something you throw out too fast.

[coachv30]

Originally Posted by Tom

I am buying TFUS PPS for both days. The TF ratings from overseas are comparable to the TF ratings for US races, so you have an apples to apples factor to look at. The comments for the foreign races are very good. They tell a lot about the horses.

Get the FREE BC Platers Guide at XpressBet. They put a lot of info into that.

Listen To ATR with Steve Byk, especially when he has Tony Luck on this week.

Look at the charts of pact BC at CD.
CD has a different surface than SA and Dmr andit may favor shippers from certain tracks. I'll be doing this the next couple of days.

Also, be advised Turf to CD dirt first time is not something you throw out too fast.

Thanks Tom...Good Stuff

[f2tornado]

I often look at J/T for these shippers. Aiden O'Brien has won 6 of the last 16 Breeders' Cup Turf renewals and is no slouch in other turf route events. Ryan Moore is his go to pilot and perhaps the world's top grass rider who has had massive Breeders Cup success. Other Euro trainers with much success include Andre Fabre, Sir Michael Stoute, and Charlie Appleby. Other top Euro riders include Frankie Dettori and William Buick. In general, if any of those are in a Turf route race then I include in the gimmicks in one form or another.

[Tom]

Duh!
I meant to say NICK Luck, not TONY!
I was listening to an ATR replay at the time and Tony Black was on!

Another thing I do, and this was talked about on SAT today - look
at horse who were beaten by a length or two by the big name favorite Euros - they might be going off at 10-1, 15-1.......

Look for horse who have good records at CD, either dirt or turf.
Look for low priced horses who have BAD records.

You are going to get some hefty long shots in the exactas, tris, and supers. The big favs might still win, but if you have a 30-1 underneath, you are not having supper at Burger King.
A few years a go, I hit for $2,000+ on an exact with the big favorite on top.

The rails be at 0 feet Fri and Sat.
The inner portion of the turf course has not been used since JUNE!
No doubt the turf has been saturated lately, and more rain expected, but the inside may well be the path to the winner's circle. Pay attention Friday.

[cj]

You can check out the complete TimeformUS package from 2017 here.

This link will work for 30 days.

[coachv30]

Thanks for the generosity guys!! Good luck to you all!!

[Tom]

Originally Posted by cj

You can check out the complete TimeformUS package from 2017 here.

This link will work for 30 days.

Cool!
Can I bet those races?

[cj]

Originally Posted by Tom

Cool!
Can I bet those races?

Maybe? We've seen races bet after the bell recently.

[letswastemoney]

There's no other way than to watch the races. Many of them are on YouTube. But even if they run well over there, that's no guarantee the form translates.

[Tom]

That's why they pay good.
Almost every single BC, a $2 bet on every Euro has shown a profit.

[deathandgravity]

Have had some luck in the past with the brisnet pedigree ratings.
Not all the foreign shippers have the numbers, but the turf pedigree rating has been helpful in the past.

Cheers