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Two Armed Heroes Step Up to Protect the Innocent
2 civilians rushed to their cars to get their guns before fatally shooting Oklahoma City restaurant gunman
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/civilian-s...opstories.html
But, of course, if these two meatheads had done the really politically-correct thing, they would have approached the shooter without their hardware, disarmed him and saved his life, too. They would have been true heroes!
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05-25-2018, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
2 civilians rushed to their cars to get their guns before fatally shooting Oklahoma City restaurant gunman
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/civilian-s...opstories.html
But, of course, if these two meatheads had done the really politically-correct thing, they would have approached the shooter without their hardware, disarmed him and saved his life, too. They would have been true heroes! |
In this incident three "Good" guys were shot and one "Bad" guy. In the Dixon school shooting, Twelve "Good" guys were shot and one "Bad" guy. That is not a good ratio. If we had stricter gun control laws the good guys would still have had their guns while the bad guys would not have had theirs.
With all this talk about good guys with a gun, the fact is that unarmed citizens have disarmed shooters in mass shooting situation at a rate four times that of armed citizens. And they don't have to run to their cars to get their guns.
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05-25-2018, 02:22 PM
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05-25-2018, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
In this incident three "Good" guys were shot and one "Bad" guy. In the Dixon school shooting, Twelve "Good" guys were shot and one "Bad" guy. That is not a good ratio. If we had stricter gun control laws the good guys would still have had their guns while the bad guys would not have had theirs.
With all this talk about good guys with a gun, the fact is that unarmed citizens have disarmed shooters in mass shooting situation at a rate four times that of armed citizens. And they don't have to run to their cars to get their guns.
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A link to back up your claim?
But here's an irrefutable stat for you: When the good guys with guns kill bad guys with guns, 100% of the dead bad guys don't get to kill again. But what is the percentage of recidivism with the bad guys who get to live for another day who were unarmed by unarmed good guys? 
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05-25-2018, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
In this incident three "Good" guys were shot and one "Bad" guy. In the Dixon school shooting, Twelve "Good" guys were shot and one "Bad" guy. That is not a good ratio. If we had stricter gun control laws the good guys would still have had their guns while the bad guys would not have had theirs.
With all this talk about good guys with a gun, the fact is that unarmed citizens have disarmed shooters in mass shooting situation at a rate four times that of armed citizens. And they don't have to run to their cars to get their guns.
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Man you're really grasping lately...
Your points about good guys with guns are being debunked on the regular. Both with these anecdotal stories as well as statistics.
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05-25-2018, 02:52 PM
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If we had stricter gun control laws the good guys would still have had their guns while the bad guys would not have had theirs.
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One big symptom of insanity is repeating the same action while expecting a different outcome.
Lib Logic: gun control laws aren't working so we need more gun control laws.
Exhibit A: The strict Assault Weapons Ban of 1994, after years of study, has been shown to have had little or no impact on gun crimes. Lib logic: we need to pass another Assault Weapons Ban.
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05-25-2018, 03:43 PM
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Reports are the teacher attacked the student in Indiana. More credence to the fight back idea.
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05-25-2018, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
One big symptom of insanity is repeating the same action while expecting a different outcome.
Lib Logic: gun control laws aren't working so we need more gun control laws.
Exhibit A: The strict Assault Weapons Ban of 1994, after years of study, has been shown to have had little or no impact on gun crimes. Lib logic: we need to pass another Assault Weapons Ban.
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It is just lack of education about gun control laws that are the problem. We have probably at least a 100 or more separate regulations covering hunting with guns in my state that can vary greatly from county to county. On top of that are numerous laws governing possession and transportation of firearms. As someone who first fired a .22 caliber rifle at 7, owned guns since 18, born in Cali and did not escape there until I was 50, I was pleased beyond belief when I researched the hunting and gun laws of Caroline County Virginia where I moved to.
I kept abreast of gun laws due to the fact I am a law abiding citizen. Gun laws became more and more restrictive in Cali by the year. The government land open to target shooting and hunting got smaller and smaller by the year.
Moral of the story we need to find a way to get criminals and the mentally deranged to research and obey gun laws the way law abiding citizens do. That would fix everything, what would it take? Please detect sarcasm, anyone who thinks a law or piece of paper will stop a criminal or crazy person is naive beyond repair.
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05-25-2018, 04:56 PM
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If we had stricter gun control laws the good guys would still have had their guns while the bad guys would not have had theirs.
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That is total BS.
The bad guys would break the law against shooting someone, but not the one about getting a gun???
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05-25-2018, 05:02 PM
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Moral of the story we need to find a way to get criminals and the mentally deranged to research and obey gun laws the way law abiding citizens do. That would fix everything, what would it take?
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05-25-2018, 05:03 PM
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Is there something wrong with demanding that an adult who wants to carry a firearm also get a license...along with some weapons training? Why is the Oklahoma governor getting criticized for not supporting a bill that proposes unlicensed and untrained gun-carrying?
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05-25-2018, 05:06 PM
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I agree that you should have a carry license and mandatory training to carry a gun in public.
What you keep at home is no ones business but yours.
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05-25-2018, 05:45 PM
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[QUOTE=boxcar;2321427]A link to back up your claim?[quote]
https://abcnews.go.com/US/breaking-n...ry?id=53360480
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05-25-2018, 06:05 PM
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[quote=mostpost;2321506][QUOTE=boxcar;2321427]A link to back up your claim? Two things:
Do citizens (not police officers) with guns ever stop mass shootings?
I can't copy and pastr the URL to this WaPo story since I don't subscribe to that rag. But you should be able find it.
Secondly, "mass shootings" constitute what percentage of all murders by guns?
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05-25-2018, 06:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
In this incident three "Good" guys were shot and one "Bad" guy. In the Dixon school shooting, Twelve "Good" guys were shot and one "Bad" guy. That is not a good ratio. If we had stricter gun control laws the good guys would still have had their guns while the bad guys would not have had theirs.
With all this talk about good guys with a gun, the fact is that unarmed citizens have disarmed shooters in mass shooting situation at a rate four times that of armed citizens. And they don't have to run to their cars to get their guns.
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