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03-19-2018, 01:10 PM
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Driverless car kills pedestrian
You knew this was coming.
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A self-driving car from Uber Technologies Inc. hit and killed a woman in Tempe, Arizona, on Sunday evening, what is likely the first pedestrian fatality involving a driverless vehicle, Bloomberg News reports.
Uber said on Monday that it was halting tests of all its autonomous vehicles in Pittsburgh, San Francisco, Toronto and the greater Phoenix area. “Our hearts go out to the victim’s family," a company spokeswoman said in a statement. "We are fully cooperating with local authorities in their investigation of this incident."
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The vehicle did have a "safety driver" at the time but was self-driving.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...after-fatality
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03-19-2018, 01:37 PM
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The "safety driver" was busy texting at the time...
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03-19-2018, 01:56 PM
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This could turn into a major test case about the responsibility of the driver and of Uber. Could the driver and/or Uber be charged with negligent homicide?
It would seem like the driver would be most likely to be found at fault, given that he or she was behind the wheel at the time and I assume has the ability to override the operation of the car at any time.
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03-19-2018, 02:58 PM
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What if it was John Connor behind the wheel intentionally hitting the person to prevent the growth and eventual takeover of Skynet?
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03-19-2018, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
What if it was John Connor behind the wheel intentionally hitting the person to prevent the growth and eventual takeover of Skynet?
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This is so logical! I am sure you are right.
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03-19-2018, 04:20 PM
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There need to be laws about crossing the street outside the painted crosswalks, even if at an intersection.
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03-19-2018, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
There need to be laws about crossing the street outside the painted crosswalks, even if at an intersection.
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We also need laws about how fast those horseless contraptions can travel.
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03-19-2018, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
There need to be laws about crossing the street outside the painted crosswalks, even if at an intersection.
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The family needs to sue the city for not putting up a bridge there.
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03-19-2018, 05:44 PM
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Uber says "Our hearts go out to the family"
To be followed shortly by their wallets.
Other than the "cool" factor and providing transportation to people who for one reason or another are unable or unwilling to drive, I'm still trying to figure out the market for driverless vehicles.
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03-19-2018, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by barahona44
To be followed shortly by their wallets.
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Chump change. 60 Minutes did a story on the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia last night. "The Kingdom" has invested over $3.5 billion in Uber.
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03-19-2018, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by barahona44
Uber says "Our hearts go out to the family"
To be followed shortly by their wallets.
Other than the "cool" factor and providing transportation to people who for one reason or another are unable or unwilling to drive, I'm still trying to figure out the market for driverless vehicles.
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It is exactly the same market for cabs, Uber and Lyft.
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03-19-2018, 07:06 PM
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How much blood money did Tempe receive to allow this to happen in their city?
Why would anybody who can drive want this?
This wasn't a plane that went down but somebody chose to fly and accidents happen. This is somebody dying so somebody can test something that the deceased never chose to interact with. I can't imagine there are more senseless reasons to lose a life. Can you?
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03-19-2018, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
How much blood money did Tempe receive to allow this to happen in their city?
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It wasn't Tempe's decision. The governor signed an executive order several years ago, apparently in the hopes of attracting high-tech money and jobs.
I just read that the companies such as Uber like Arizona because of the weather. Robot cars don't deal well with the realities of life, like rain or snow or high wind.
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03-19-2018, 08:38 PM
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Isn't Uber mostly a software company, paying independent contractors to drive their personal car like a taxi? What do they need billions of dollars for? and why do they think it would be cheaper to own the 'self-driving' cars themselves?
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03-19-2018, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
It wasn't Tempe's decision. The governor signed an executive order several years ago, apparently in the hopes of attracting high-tech money and jobs.
I just read that the companies such as Uber like Arizona because of the weather. Robot cars don't deal well with the realities of life, like rain or snow or high wind.
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Thanks for the information.
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