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06-23-2019, 10:11 AM
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Hope these posts aren't boring anyone, I think it is very interesting and important to the future of the sport.
He still has a big operation, according to this he has started 369 horses this year, in comparison Chad Brown 324 and Brad Multitrack Cox 418.
https://www.americasbestracing.net/t...y-hollendorfer
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06-23-2019, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by taxicab
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thanks for the link-well worth reading. Sounds like a horrible person
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06-23-2019, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RunForTheRoses
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Didn't see taxicab's post, MODS can delete although the comment is OK.
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06-23-2019, 11:17 AM
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Despite the threat of a defamation lawsuit to
A petitition site ....
Comments regarding Heavenly Perfect
Being pulled from Sugarcreek and the rest .remain
on pedigreequery .
I guess his 4 additional deaths were under the microscope .
I’m only assuming on that last statement .
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06-23-2019, 11:26 AM
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do you think that the other claiming trainers are any different?
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06-23-2019, 11:41 AM
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Gee, this all makes grand sense...
right down to the implication that Jerry Hollendorfer spent any significant time at all in Ohio.
He once ran one in Tillamook too, wonder if he's ever set foot in the place...?
The clueless on the 'net have for so long decried the trainers who assembled a life-long norm of 8% wins before discovering the good stuff and suddenly began to win at a steady 28% or 32%.
Yet up until now they have always turned their attention away from those who once won steadily at 28-35% who, in time, became 18-25% trainers.
This makes no sense, even for the clueless among you.
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06-23-2019, 03:00 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Originally Posted by AskinHaskin
Gee, this all makes grand sense...
right down to the implication that Jerry Hollendorfer spent any significant time at all in Ohio.
He once ran one in Tillamook too, wonder if he's ever set foot in the place...?
The clueless on the 'net have for so long decried the trainers who assembled a life-long norm of 8% wins before discovering the good stuff and suddenly began to win at a steady 28% or 32%.
Yet up until now they have always turned their attention away from those who once won steadily at 28-35% who, in time, became 18-25% trainers.
This makes no sense, even for the clueless among you.
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He owned the horse, no? Not saying he was in Ohio but surely he had some say in where she ended up.
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06-23-2019, 05:34 PM
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PA Steward
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Don't bother trying to argue with fake Haskin. He's a one-trick pony.
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06-23-2019, 05:36 PM
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Vancouver Island
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New York wants Jerry and his horses to fill there fields
In the mean time, Los Alamitos has cleared Hollendorfer to run at its upcoming meet that begins next weekend
https://www.horseracingnation.com/ne...Anita_ban_123#
Last edited by bob60566; 06-23-2019 at 05:40 PM.
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06-24-2019, 02:29 AM
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Where was the outcry then?
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06-24-2019, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rabrown36
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My thoughts EXACTLY...and THIS guy got CAUGHT....yet now the climate has changed..(a pun there if you will  )....
So going to play Devil's Advocate here...
Did you know that THE "Dorf"....had no fatalities the previous 2 years....
So half the deaths of Baffert....(whom Deliberately over-drugged his horses)...whilst Dorf's charges died for DIFFERENT reason's...several cause not known...
Yet now he's BEING....what's going to be the NEW term for "Rush to Judgement".....KAVANAUGH'ed....
What's interesting is how many here a so quick to Flip/flop their opinions....let's convict the man before soild proof...
Yet the REAL criminal was ALLOWED to continue and race triple crown winners....again...everything is just getting so warped and outta hand...
Now if the "Dorf" is guilty...then and ONLY then...throw the whole book at him as some have suggested...
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06-24-2019, 07:58 AM
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One of the worst SoCal incidents, to me, was the Doug Oneil run a $25k claimer for $2k at Los Al and the horse breaks down. What a callous greedy person.
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/r...-doug-o-neill/
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 06-25-2019 at 02:39 AM.
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06-24-2019, 10:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sammy the sage
My thoughts EXACTLY...and THIS guy got CAUGHT....yet now the climate has changed..(a pun there if you will )....
So going to play Devil's Advocate here...
Did you know that THE "Dorf"....had no fatalities the previous 2 years....
So half the deaths of Baffert....(whom Deliberately over-drugged his horses)...whilst Dorf's charges died for DIFFERENT reason's...several cause not known...
Yet now he's BEING....what's going to be the NEW term for "Rush to Judgement".....KAVANAUGH'ed....
What's interesting is how many here a so quick to Flip/flop their opinions....let's convict the man before soild proof...
Yet the REAL criminal was ALLOWED to continue and race triple crown winners....again...everything is just getting so warped and outta hand...
Now if the "Dorf" is guilty...then and ONLY then...throw the whole book at him as some have suggested... |
How do you know he had no deaths in the previous 2 years?
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06-24-2019, 11:04 AM
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self medicated
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
You can't be a scapegoat if you haven't done anything wrong.
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Exactly, if he goes quietly in the night with an operation this big, one can be quite sure they have something on him. These people are pretty shrewd to be where they are. Booting him without cause, leaves them open to future consequences. We don’t know what was said or what cards were played behind closed doors. Kicking him out for nothing leaves them open to a fight. If he just packs up and leaves, you gotta wonder what they have on him. Just saying I follow all the rules and leaving is not much of a defense. Just saying . 
If nothing more becomes of this, one can be kind of sure they had his ass on something.
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06-24-2019, 11:29 AM
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Apprentice
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sammy the sage
My thoughts EXACTLY...and THIS guy got CAUGHT....yet now the climate has changed..(a pun there if you will )....
So half the deaths of Baffert....( |
Bob "Jason" Baffert?
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