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12-21-2009, 07:26 AM
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PA ok ok I don't have a wife but your persistance makes me think that this nagging is what it is like. So I am going to do the best I can to get you your long awaited answer.
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12-21-2009, 07:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cratos
Saarland (one of the best bred horses in recent years), Storm Flag Flying, Sky Mesa, and Discreet Cat.
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Cratos, these horses you've mentioned all came back from injuries.
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07-14-2010, 10:51 PM
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#63
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One Hot Wish
Rodeo
Officer
Danseuse
Ruler's Court
Worldly Manner
Eightyfiveinafifty
Orville N Wilbur
Kelly Kip
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07-14-2010, 11:03 PM
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Tom Swift by Secretariat
Pancho Martin was his trainer
Tom was sent to Fla to work out some problems
As therapy he was put in water filled pool
One day Pancho, anxious to get Tom back on the NY track
phoned down to Fla and asked how Tom was doing
He was told Tom was the best swimmer they had
But he remained a bust
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07-15-2010, 01:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by misscashalot
Tom Swift by Secretariat
Pancho Martin was his trainer
Tom was sent to Fla to work out some problems
As therapy he was put in water filled pool
One day Pancho, anxious to get Tom back on the NY track
phoned down to Fla and asked how Tom was doing
He was told Tom was the best swimmer they had
But he remained a bust
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Tom Swift was NOT by Secretariat--he was a foal of 1973, conceived in 1972 when Secretariat was two .
His actual sire was Tom Rolfe, and he was out of champion mare Shuvee.
He did not live up to expectations, but managed to win the Seneca at 13 furlongs, setting a record .
-----------------------Mikki
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07-15-2010, 05:48 AM
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Woody Stepthens had a horse named WISLA smashing debut never heard from again
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07-15-2010, 06:38 AM
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[QUOTE=PaceAdvantage]Well, that was an awesome deflection...however, it doesn't bring me any closer to my rather reasonable request.
Or, was it that he was such a high profile trainer, everything he did was magnified 1000x during his heyday?
That’s exactly what it is. At the end of the day perception is reality. You couple the high profile nature of his barn with the vast number of horses he trained and the burnout/breakdown legend is born.
Whether or not empirical data can be created, to many Lukas will be know as the trainer who ruined two year olds.
jb
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07-15-2010, 09:49 AM
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There was a full sister to Serena's Song named "Serena's Sister" that ran at Hawthorne a few years back, never ran a lick to my recollection.
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07-15-2010, 09:56 AM
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Thanks to Pat Day.....
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Originally Posted by Run Nicholas Run
pat day the human anchor
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Made a nice score in the 1990 KY Derby....thanks to Pat Day!!!
He gave Unbridled the worst ride imaginable in the Fountain of Youth at GP that year. My co-worker spotted the trouble, and quickly made a trip up the street to a nearby racebook who were offering 150-1 on the horse for the Roses.
I threw a few dollars his way, which turned into a grand by early May.
He got involved much more heavily, and cashed for 5 figures.
You should have seen his eyes light up the day he heard Craig Perret had the ride in the Derby........
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07-15-2010, 10:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
Even more recent Quality Road.
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In retrospect, this statement is as funny now as it was then.
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07-15-2010, 10:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by only11
Woody Stepthens had a horse named WISLA smashing debut never heard from again
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Actually Wisla went on to win 6 from 11 starts..
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07-15-2010, 05:50 PM
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All of the clones of champions: there are tons of them same sire and dam but zip....Shows how inaccurate selective breeding really is.
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07-15-2010, 07:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wisconsin
There was a full sister to Serena's Song named "Serena's Sister" that ran at Hawthorne a few years back, never ran a lick to my recollection.
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I don't think this counts in any way with regard to the topic, but Serena's Sister wasn't a complete bust-she's the dam of Grade II winner Doubles Partner (Rock Hard Ten).
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07-16-2010, 01:38 AM
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Here's two. Furiously out of the Mcgaughey barn. Yeah he won the Jerome but coming off his first three races in which he won by double digits ...he looked like the second coming. Second was a horse that never made it to the track...STRONG GOER. This was Easy Goer's full brother. Bill Finley wrote few articles about him when he was a yearling and a two-year old.
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07-16-2010, 01:44 AM
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2 outta 3 aint bad
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Cribnote-Violette
Roamin Rachel- Shug-thought she would move on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPqW68DSnV0
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