Next on deck -- Smallpox

[Rex Phinney]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

that happens, statiscically, in almost ANY disease process when you are over 50. I used to attend grand rounds in gerontolgy and was simply overwhelmed a how much redundacy phsyiolofix FUNCTION, that drops off dramatically at that age....Glomerular Filtration rate was an astounding discovery

QUOTE: Glomerular filtration rate (GFR) declines with age by approx. 1 ml/min/m2 per year beginning in the third decade of life. At 70 years of age > 40 ml/min/m2 of GFR will be lost. Thus, factors affecting loss of GFR have significant public health implications.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2744545/

...and that is only ONE physiolgical function that is in steady decline. My patholgy professor stressed to us that with age (NORMAL AGING TOO) physilogy tolerance for the pressures of normal illness streses (colds, flu, infections in general, GFR, hematopoesis cell production, healing time, oxygen absorption, stressed to cardio function etc. THe phsyiologcal state of a 70 year old (normal health for that age ) is QUALITATIVELY no different from a 20 year old, only the ability to handle those same functions in the face of disease.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7336713/

so an increased vulernability would OF COURSE occur in that age group...A simple deline in physiological function pressure resistance with age.

So the older you are the more risk you have from dying of COVID? And if you are young and healthy the mortality rate is next to nothing.




Sounds an awful lot like the line the common sense crowd was using in March 2020, you know before the media and health organizations shut that down, insisting the measures they were selling would change things.


Very interesting indeed....

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Actor

Where did you get that from? There have been more COVID deaths in 2021 than in 2020. New cases of COVID in the U.S. are climbing.

And deaths are declining, down almost 50% since 9/24.

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by Tom

And deaths are declining, down almost 50% since 9/24.

Joe Brandon has saved Merika. You heard it hear first. Well, actually that was the second thing. The first thing you heard was his flatulence.

[46zilzal]

Originally Posted by Rex Phinney

So the older you are the more risk you have from dying of COVID? And if you are young and healthy the mortality rate is next to nothing.




Sounds an awful lot like the line the common sense crowd was using in March 2020, you know before the media and health organizations shut that down, insisting the measures they were selling would change things.


Very interesting indeed....

NO. the more likely you are suspectible to the myriad of diseases that visit us in an unwanted fashion, due to lessened buffering via the norma, yet decreased, ability to ward them off.

T cells drop in numbers and stimulus to antigens, white cells response to infecive agents (especially activated NEUTROPHILS, as i learned only two well when I was hopitlized almost all of June).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2327031/

There is a new way to test them that is called ACTIVATED neutrophil reponse now and I had a very very low one due to the bone marrow CA when hospitalized.

[Dave Schwartz]

Originally Posted by tbwinner

More reference to it's hard to scare the general public with COVID anymore. Go out in the US and everything is "normal" aside from some places still requiring masks. Been to Vegas last week compared to last December it is night and day no one cares about COVID anymore... Except MSM and politicians... That's why they need the next big thing to further their control agenda.

Really?

Here in Reno everyone in every store - except maybe 1% - are masked all the time.

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz

Really?

Here in Reno everyone in every store - except maybe 1% - are masked all the time.

WOW. That never happened in SC. It maybe got to 80-90% during the two weeks to lessen the curve. Remember that whopper?

There may be 10% at most who mask up nowadays, and it's probably under 5%. It's been that way all year. When local school boards tried to mask kids this fall, there was hell to pay. Parents saw a real diminishing to their child's education and overall health and wellbeing during the lockdowns and 24/7 masking. That horse has left the barn and pasture.

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by Actor

Where did you get that from? There have been more COVID deaths in 2021 than in 2020. New cases of COVID in the U.S. are climbing.

But how much more would they be climbing if we didn’t have the vaccine? The numbers would be astronomical, and the economy would be completely destroyed.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

Here is a weekly tally of Covid deaths from the start of the pandemic. (Column one)

The numbers climb rapidly until late April. Then, as we implement mask wearing, social distancing and shutdowns the drop significantly and plateau. Warm weather and not being confined in enclosed spaces is also helpful.

As we approach the holiday season 2020 there is another surge created by holiday gatherings, mask reluctance and covid denial. Weekly death totals which had dropped near 5,000 a week increase to 20,000 plus per week.

Then the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are approved. The week of 1/16/21 25,695 people die from Covid. By 3/13/21 that number is down to 5,703 and by the week of 7/3/21 it’s down to 1530.

Then delta arrived causing another surge, although not nearly as bad as fall 2020. But things are improving as more people get fully vaccinated and get boosters. The weekly death toll has gone down 11 weeks in a row.

We’re it not for the vaccines and the mask mandates and other mitigation’s, we would be looking in excess of 50,000 dead every week.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by mostpost

But how much more would they be climbing if we didn’t have the vaccine?

But then again, these jabs were billed as highly safe and effective, so one would logically think the numbers should be going down, not up!

[Dave Schwartz]

Originally Posted by tucker6

WOW. That never happened in SC. It maybe got to 80-90% during the two weeks to lessen the curve. Remember that whopper?

There may be 10% at most who mask up nowadays, and it's probably under 5%. It's been that way all year. When local school boards tried to mask kids this fall, there was hell to pay. Parents saw a real diminishing to their child's education and overall health and wellbeing during the lockdowns and 24/7 masking. That horse has left the barn and pasture.

Our rules say that whenever you're indoors you must wear a mask.

Exception: restaurants when you're eating - which everyone defines as "I'm seated."

We were at Long John Silver's the other day and there was a fellow without a mask. Sign says "No mask, no service," but nobody is enforcing or complaining.

Personally, I find it easy enough to just go along, but, frankly, do not mind if someone wishes to be militant about it. In fact, I generally offer them respect.

[fast4522]

So is RFK Jr. all wrong on this?

RFK Jr.: Fauci And Bill Gates Should Be Criminally Prosecuted For Gross Negligence And Profiting Off COVID

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...off_covid.html

[tbwinner]

Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz

Really?

Here in Reno everyone in every store - except maybe 1% - are masked all the time.

I should say no one is enforcing aside from a few places. Back in December security was on you in a millisecond if you didn't remask after taking a drink.

Of course if you were smoking they didn't care.

Funny how public health interest works.


Here in the Midwest maybe 5 to 10% are wearing masks. No one requires them other than the local racino.