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05-09-2023, 10:56 AM
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Crazy restricted condition at Horseshoe Indy
In all my decades of following horse racing, I have NEVER seen this restricted condition from Race 2 Tuesday at Horseshoe Indy. 3&Up $5K claimers which have not won a race in 2022-23 south of the Mason-Dixon Line. So you've got winners from Ohio, Illinois and even Indy who remain eligible. My guess is it's intended to block Kentucky and Florida shippers.
Last edited by turfeyejoe; 05-09-2023 at 11:03 AM.
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05-09-2023, 11:23 AM
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I'm thinking this race was made for Restoring Hope.
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Last edited by sovereign; 05-09-2023 at 11:27 AM.
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05-09-2023, 11:28 AM
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I have been on the sidelines for a while, when did Indiana Downs become the Horseshoe Indy?
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05-09-2023, 11:34 AM
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Nyoman, Z U Soon and Yak all have THREE wins since 2022, yet still remain eligible.
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05-09-2023, 11:34 AM
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Right after it became Indiana Grand.
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05-09-2023, 11:49 AM
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Throwing a bone to the locals over the Kentucky ship-ins.
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05-09-2023, 12:07 PM
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It would have made more sense to make the race a starter allowance restricted to horses that made at least one start for $5,000 at Indy the past 2 years without winning a race.
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05-09-2023, 01:01 PM
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Interesting
also like the 10c Pentafecta they offer (most tracks are $1 minimum
race 5 today no pentafecta but is a good gambling race
race 8 today pentafecta in play, some hard-hitters but the has nice darkened form and you hope for some anchoring bias to the 12/1 ml
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05-09-2023, 02:25 PM
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Fun fact, Penn National carded races with this condition in 1863 to prevent Robert E. Lee from shipping horses up into Pennsylvania.
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05-09-2023, 05:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
Fun fact, Penn National carded races with this condition in 1863 to prevent Robert E. Lee from shipping horses up into Pennsylvania.
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well(s), it is in grant-ville.
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05-09-2023, 06:11 PM
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I was right???
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05-09-2023, 06:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sovereign
I'm thinking this race was made for Restoring Hope.
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Good Call!
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05-09-2023, 08:51 PM
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Thanks. I'm trying to remember which book wrote "Who The Race Was Written For" or something like that. Sometimes they will write a race for a horse in mind. Sometimes. Just like those 3-up races that end up with an entire field of 3YOs still trying to figure things out and one single fully-developed 5, 6, 7 or 8YO that fits the conditions.
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05-09-2023, 09:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sovereign
Thanks. I'm trying to remember which book wrote "Who The Race Was Written For" or something like that. Sometimes they will write a race for a horse in mind. Sometimes. Just like those 3-up races that end up with an entire field of 3YOs still trying to figure things out and one single fully-developed 5, 6, 7 or 8YO that fits the conditions.
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James Quinn's The Handicappers Condition Book had a bunch of stuff on that issue.
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05-10-2023, 12:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
James Quinn's The Handicappers Condition Book had a bunch of stuff on that issue.
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Thanks! I will dig that book out, it's somewhere in the house.
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