Religion III

[Actor]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Of course, the bible agrees with Natural Revelation, reality as we know it.

Of course it does. The concept of natural revelation was made up to promote religion. But it proves nothing. Scripture proves nothing.

You could probably come up with a similar concept to support Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, etc.

[Actor]

Originally Posted by boxcar

https://thescientificworldview.blogs...is-motion.html

Who is this blogger? It's not N.A.S.A.

[Actor]

Originally Posted by boxcar

https://www.timephysics.com/#!

This also does not come from N.A.S.A. It's by a Dr. M. Khan. Who the hell is he?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Actor

This also does not come from N.A.S.A. It's by a Dr. M. Khan. Who the hell is he?

And none of his questionable sources says anything about timer stopping if the earth stopped
This one even states right out.....

"I still disagree with the statement.... Time is motion.

To be more precise, it should be worded as.... "Time is an aspect of motion." According to almost all conventional descriptions of motion, it has three aspects -- an object, a path, and time. To suddenly state that motion only has one aspect (time) is confusing to many readers, including me."

https://thescientificworldview.blogs...is-motion.html

[hcap]

Actort, I know of only oner mathematical formula that shows thr relation of TIME to motion. I used it to try to prove to box that time dilation is contrary to his backwards claim that time stop if velocity = 0

In post 419.....



1) Is it correct to use a time dilation formula geared towards relativistic speeds to shoe the very small velocities instead of the very high?

2) Do you know of any other formulae that is specifically designers for the very small?

[hcap]

Sorry, eyes not that good today

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Actor

Of course it does. The concept of natural revelation was made up to promote religion. But it proves nothing. Scripture proves nothing.

You could probably come up with a similar concept to support Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, etc.

Not likely. And know, Natural Revelation is a biblical concept. It wasn't made up my the minds of men.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Actor

Who is this blogger? It's not N.A.S.A.

I didn't say it was. I posted an excerpt several days ago from the NASA site on what would happen to this little ol' planet if it were to stop spinning.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

No, I said motion is an indication of time, and used to measure the rate of time's passage.

You never answered my question about what would happen to the tremendous inertia of the earth if it both stopped spinning on it's axis and orbiting the sun.

Your Nasa excerpt...
The probability for such an event is practically zero in the next few billion years. If the Earth stopped spinning suddenly, the atmosphere would still be in motion with the Earth's original 1100 mile per hour rotation speed at the equator. All of the land masses would be scoured clean of anything not attached to bedrock. This means rocks, topsoil, trees, buildings, your pet dog, and so on, would be swept away into the atmosphere.

Notice NASA says after the earth stops, time does not, but cataclysmic events continue to take place. So how long AFTER the earth stops does it actually take for time to completely stop?

Remember...Major alterations of the earth would continue.
Btw, How come NASA forgot to mention your idiocy that time stops in your excerpt bunky?

Call them immediately and correct them. Proclaiming nonsense does not require a rocket scientist

You've got the roles of Motion and Time backwards. It's Time that MEASURES MOTION, a/k/a Change.

NASA doesn't mention Time because it isn't the subject or the webpage or even the excerpt.

Since all life would die on this planet, Times stops for all life. No one will be around to observe or record anything. Common sense. Time ceases for you when you die. Common sense. Time ceases for all people when they die. Common sense. Time ceases for everyone on the planet when it dies (can no longer support life). Common sense.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

One man? Not exactly TOTAL is it?

If the man were totally depraved he would first take his animal dates to a lousy restaurant and forced them to read your illogical posts

NOW that's depravity

One man? There's actually a difference between one man and men. Enroll in night school quickly so you can learn to read.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

And none of his questionable sources says anything about timer stopping if the earth stopped
This one even states right out.....

"I still disagree with the statement.... Time is motion.

To be more precise, it should be worded as.... "Time is an aspect of motion." According to almost all conventional descriptions of motion, it has three aspects -- an object, a path, and time. To suddenly state that motion only has one aspect (time) is confusing to many readers, including me."

https://thescientificworldview.blogs...is-motion.html

So,you disagree, heh? Can you tell us why hands move on clocks? Can you tell us why clocks are useless without moving hands?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

NASA doesn't mention Time because it isn't the subject or the webpage or even the excerpt.

More likley everyone from the janitor to the head scientist would loose their jobs for publishing trash.

Oh wait it is the Trump administration.
Never mind!

Donald probably agrees with you

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

So,you disagree, heh? Can you tell us why hands move on clocks? Can you tell us why clocks are useless without moving hands?

Not worth wasting my time.

Just one more thing. Post any website, excerpt from anywhere, even one of your fawning apologetic sources, stating time stoops when motion stops.

You can't

[Tom]

Time and the Earth spinning have nothing to do with each other.
Mutually exclusive events.

We use the rotation as a measure of time, but neither is dependent on the other.

If the Earth stopped rotating, time would march on.
And the countdown to our extinction would speed up.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Tom

Time and the Earth spinning have nothing to do with each other.
Mutually exclusive events.

We use the rotation as a measure of time, but neither is dependent on the other.

If the Earth stopped rotating, time would march on.
And the countdown to our extinction would speed up.

You need to buy a sundial too.

Time is perpetual or indefinite succession of motion.

It is utterly beyond our power to measure the changes of things by time. Quite the contrary, time is an abstraction at which we arrive by means of the changes (motion) of things. (Ernst Mach)

Time in itself, absolutely, does not exist; it is always relative to some observer or some object. Without a clock I say 'I do not know the time' . Without matter time itself is unknowable. Time is a function of matter; and matter therefore is the clock that makes infinity real. (Fowles, The Aristos)

https://www.spaceandmotion.com/Physics-Time.htm

The author would have been even more accurate to have said Time is a function of matter IN MOTION. This is so because Motion itself is a function of Matter. In fact, the term "motion" in physical science is a kind of shorthand for "matter in motion".

Matter consists of Motion, Energy and Phenomena.

And I totally agree that "time in itself, absolutely does not exist." This is why if the earth were to stop spinning, time would come to an end, because time is only relative to some observer, and a static earth would kill all life on it, according to NASA. Therefore, with no life to observe, Time would cease to exist.