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10-11-2020, 04:46 PM
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Poindexter. Let's hope the apparent deceptions pointed out in your post are limited, and scientific thinking and responsibility prevails, else it's back to the dark ages.
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Actually Poindexter is correct. Completely correct. I have 70 employees that interact one on one with 75 clients each week. 400 times that happens each week out in client homes. That's 12,000 times since this pandemic started. We don't control what the client does when we aren't there and we don't control what our aides do when they aren't working. EVERY single client is at risk due to pre-existing issues. Many are north of 75. If covid was so singularly deadly that we should hide in our basements trembling, why is it that no client nor aide has ever had covid. Only one aide had a family member get covid and we still sent the aide (with precautions and a thorough understanding of the contact)) and she didn't catch covid. All I'm saying is that covid really isn't that scary. IT JUST ISN'T. You and Harry breathlessly scaremonger every day by releasing some blah, blah, blah paper or study when the reality on the ground is actually quite different. Even nursing homes can be quite safe with a few simple precautions. If you choose to tweak your business practices even just a little as we did, covid is pretty much a non-issue.
So just know that when you scaremonger on here, some of us deal with it on the ground every day and know the truth. You've heard the difference between book smart and street smart. Always bet on the street smart people for things like this. Tried and true is a hell of a lot better than "expected" and "suggests" and "conclude". Those are words from statistics, and because my background is economics, I know the fallacy of following statistics to conclude what real life looks like. Otherwise, we'd all win the 9th at Saratoga wouldn't we?
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10-11-2020, 04:47 PM
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what an easy game.
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Not only that, but hospital get paid more to care for Covid patients. A LOT more.
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I can see there is no intelligent conversation to be had here.
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10-11-2020, 04:51 PM
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That exact scenario happened in FL. A death by motorcycle became a Covid death because he tested positive after the fact.
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Did you ever stop to think that maybe someone saw him coughing due to the virus and that is what caused him to crash and die.
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10-11-2020, 05:01 PM
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10-11-2020, 05:01 PM
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I can see there is no intelligent conversation to be had here.
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https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/...nts/112873160/
"Yes, hospitals get an additional 20% for Medicare patients treated for COVID-19"
Idiot (I'm talking to you Formula)
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10-11-2020, 05:05 PM
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10-11-2020, 05:07 PM
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My Q's on all of this is the homeless. Nobody has reported any major outbreak in the homeless community. They live on top of each other. Many have very weak immune systems. They live like cord wood in the shelters. Nothing at all.
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10-11-2020, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisl
My Q's on all of this is the homeless. Nobody has reported any major outbreak in the homeless community. They live on top of each other. Many have very weak immune systems. They live like cord wood in the shelters. Nothing at all.
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We wonders why we don't hear of rampant deaths among the homeless. Yes, we wonders greatly.
(an adaptation from JRR Tolkien character Gollum)
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10-11-2020, 05:12 PM
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Does anybody really monitor the deaths of the homeless? I haven't read any reports on the lifespan of the average homeless person.
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10-11-2020, 05:16 PM
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the majority of the deaths came at the beginning of the whole cycle when the leading states were New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts. during those months with the higher deathrate the hospitals were treating their patients with self induced comma's. this is when every expert were predicting 2 million deaths this year.. now they stopped the comma's and cut down the deaths dramatically.
this still doesn't mean that this virus didn't cause plenty of breathing and lung problems along with less than normal nervous systems..
here is the bottom line: YOU DON'T WANT TO CONTRACT THE CORONA
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10-11-2020, 05:17 PM
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Does anybody really monitor the deaths of the homeless? I haven't read any reports on the lifespan of the average homeless person.
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Did you duck or did that just sail over your head. Whoosh!
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10-11-2020, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Does anybody really monitor the deaths of the homeless? I haven't read any reports on the lifespan of the average homeless person.
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Ask and ye shall receive...
https://endhomelessness.org/homeless...UaAufbEALw_wcB
From the article:
COVID-19 Vulnerable. According to the CDC, some individuals are at higher risk of becoming seriously ill from COVID-19. They include older adults age 65 and over. However, people experiencing homelessness age faster than housed people. Research indicates they have physical conditions that mirror those of people 15-20 years older than them. On a single day, an estimated 202,623 single adults experiencing homelessness are over age 50, suggesting they may be uniquely vulnerable to becoming seriously ill during the pandemic crisis.
An additional CDC-identified risk group is people with pre-existing health conditions. Before the current crisis, growing numbers were experiencing unsheltered homelessness—a living situation associated with poor health. A recent study sampled unsheltered individuals from across the country, finding 84 percent self-reporting existing physical health conditions. Only 19 percent of people in shelters said the same.
How ya doing Gus?
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10-11-2020, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
here is the bottom line: YOU DON'T WANT TO CONTRACT THE CORONA
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Didn't seem to effect Trump too much. Seemed like the flu bug.
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10-11-2020, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
We wonders why we don't hear of rampant deaths among the homeless. Yes, we wonders greatly.
(an adaptation from JRR Tolkien character Gollum)
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Excellent observation! One would think that these kinds of people would be very near the top of High Risk.
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10-11-2020, 05:32 PM
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Excellent observation! One would think that these kinds of people would be very near the top of High Risk.
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You would think wouldn't you. I guess that's why the left is smarter than you and I.
It's kids we need to protect I'm told, even though only 0.003% who get covid die from it. For you folks at home, that's 3 in 100,000 under the age of 14. Versus 14 out of 100 for those over 85 who die. 145 death rate for those over 85. But let's keep kids of out school and pack nursing homes with covid patients. Stupid is wildly understating what has happened. It's like a room full of people trying to convince you that the sun is actually green and not yellow. Completely exasperating.
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