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12-05-2019, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by clicknow
Then maybe you can explain why the opposite doesn't occur either: i.e. trainers and owners seeing bad actors acting badly, and they don't step up to help put a stop to it, or report it.
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I wish they would. The current climate is helping a little but it needs to be more. The biggest fear according to those I’ve talked to is that their horses will be tampered with.
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12-05-2019, 11:37 AM
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Vancouver Island
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With there new drug rules that are being proposed, How many owners, or trainers, and private vets have gone public and supported these new rules.
Silence is golden
Last edited by bob60566; 12-05-2019 at 11:40 AM.
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12-07-2019, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bob60566
With there new drug rules that are being proposed, How many owners, or trainers, and private vets have gone public and supported these new rules.
Silence is golden
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Trainers who joined the WHOA have gone public.
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12-08-2019, 11:29 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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WHOA are they?
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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12-14-2019, 08:37 AM
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PA Steward
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Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by Fager Fan
I ran the numbers a couple months ago, and JH had a higher percentage, so it's not just raw numbers I looked at. Part of his high number of starts though is that he runs his horses a lot (when some maybe shouldn't be running).
JH said himself that he hadn't had any fatalities in X time, and people accepted that as truth. A discussion either at this forum or another named horses of his, however, that had suffered on-track fatalities during that time. The claim was false.
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What were these percentages you ran? Can you post them?
"WHEN SOME MAYBE SHOULDN'T BE RUNNING"
WTF does that mean? You sound like a radical activist at this point. "HE KILLED" | "MAYBE SHOULDN'T BE RUNNING"
WHAT? Who the **** are you anyway?
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12-14-2019, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
What were these percentages you ran? Can you post them?
"WHEN SOME MAYBE SHOULDN'T BE RUNNING"
WTF does that mean? You sound like a radical activist at this point. "HE KILLED" | "MAYBE SHOULDN'T BE RUNNING"
WHAT? Who the **** are you anyway?
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You don’t know what that means? Good Lord, do you know anything about racing?
Let me clue you in. Some trainers know their horses have a physical issue and they run (or train) them anyway.
That’s reality, and it’s gone on far too long.
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12-15-2019, 09:30 AM
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Another Hollendorfer horse dead, Mighty Elijah Rc 1 Los Al yesterday.
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12-17-2019, 10:54 AM
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PA Steward
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Originally Posted by Fager Fan
You don’t know what that means? Good Lord, do you know anything about racing?
Let me clue you in. Some trainers know their horses have a physical issue and they run (or train) them anyway.
That’s reality, and it’s gone on far too long.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
REALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY??????
SAY IT ISN'T SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
BTW, NOT the point.
The point is...HOW THE HELL WOULD YOU KNOW THIS, TO BEGIN EVEN SPECULATING ON INDIVIDUAL CASES???
You know...kind of how you yell at Dilane for DARING TO SPECULATE on Dr. Bramlage....aren't YOU doing the SAME THING in these cases?
You don't know...but you'll state HE KILLED HIM.
Hilarious dude...keep "cluing me in" on stuff...it's so educational...
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12-17-2019, 08:50 PM
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Veteran
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
REALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY??????
SAY IT ISN'T SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
BTW, NOT the point.
The point is...HOW THE HELL WOULD YOU KNOW THIS, TO BEGIN EVEN SPECULATING ON INDIVIDUAL CASES???
You know...kind of how you yell at Dilane for DARING TO SPECULATE on Dr. Bramlage....aren't YOU doing the SAME THING in these cases?
You don't know...but you'll state HE KILLED HIM.
Hilarious dude...keep "cluing me in" on stuff...it's so educational...
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I have the evidence of 8 dead horses in my corner. Where’s Dilans evidence that Bramlage is unethical? I’ll wait.
You are on the wrong side of this one but your arrogance has you rather fight me than stand up for the innocent horses he’s killing. Yes, killing.
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12-24-2019, 11:12 AM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Stats can be a cruel mistress...or hadn't you heard?
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12-24-2019, 12:05 PM
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The title of this thread hasn't aged well.
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12-24-2019, 02:17 PM
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Location: Clarksville, AR
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
The title of this thread hasn't aged well.
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Now they’re all gonna be absent that day! School is out.
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12-24-2019, 02:24 PM
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Unreconstructed
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O'Neill
I thought O'Neill had left for a "friendlier" environment. Just saw that he has a live FTS in the first race.
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12-24-2019, 04:15 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Dark Side of the Moon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryG
I thought O'Neill had left for a "friendlier" environment. Just saw that he has a live FTS in the first race.
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Its great he says he is going to leave, as I stated elsewhere, a lot of owners dont want to send their horses away for 6 months. The ones that are fine with it we wont see at SA I suppose.
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12-28-2019, 04:01 PM
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Resurrectionist
Join Date: Jan 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryG
I thought O'Neill had left for a "friendlier" environment. Just saw that he has a live FTS in the first race.
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Gary,
He was really alive, WOW!!
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