The coronavirus

[46zilzal]

Originally Posted by davew

some have suggested the new virus is the same one that caused the worldwide pandeminic during world war I. Fauci and others from CDC authorized digging up dead people from permafrost in Alaska that died in 1917-1918 to do research on it (since it is illegal in USA, they sent the stuff to Wuhan)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2391305/

Researchers in Alaska and in Northern Europe have already found samples of that virus and its genome has been sequenced and it is NOT the same as the current bug.

quote: It is now believed that the pandemic virus appearing in 1918 was transmitted from humans to pigs, at that time splitting off into two lineages, one human, the other porcine. Both lineages persist today, the classical swine influenza lineage having evolved continually since 1918, and the human lineage having caused pandemic and endemic influenza from 1918 to 1956.

In June 1951, an expedition consisting of Hultin, McKee, and the team’s renowned pathologist Jack M Layton (1917–), left for Alaska. At Brevig Mission the permafrost conditions were promising, and permission to perform an exhumation was obtained. The team, joined in Alaska by Geist, made rapid progress digging. Reaching a depth of 2 m, a layer of bodies was discovered, placed side by side. Layton opened the rib cages of four bodies, exposing frozen, dark red, expanded lungs. Generous biopsies from eight lungs were obtained and, while still frozen, placed in sterile containers that were then put into thermal jugs and kept frozen with carbon dioxide snow from fire extinguishers. Dr. FAUCI had NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS EXPEDITION. It is has already been done and is NOT illegal at all. Where do you get this FICTION? PBS had a complete NOVA show about these efforts!

Viral sequence data now suggest that the entire 1918 virus was novel to humans in, or shortly before, 1918, and that it was not likely to have been a reassortant virus such as those that caused the 1957 and 1968 pandemics. Rather, the 1918 virus is an avian-influenza-like virus that appears to have been derived in toto from an unknown source because its eight genome segments differ from contemporary avian influenza genes,

[davew]

another group went again in the mid 1990's



a global black market is emerging for negative tests - for those that want to travel (and be super spreaders)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/new...?ocid=msedgntp

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by lamboguy

for Wednesday, November 11,2020


142,000 new cases

1500 deaths

for Thursday, November 12, 2020

160,000 new cases

1100 deaths

[hcap]

Originally Posted by tucker6

Isn't it illegal to select govt vendors by religious affiliation.

You told me

"Masks have done nothing. Lockdowns have done nothing. social distancing has done nothing. Thanks for pointing out the idiocy of prevention measures".

Are you serious? How can I have a serious conversation with you?

[PaceAdvantage]

Why would any intelligent person be in favor of locking down again?

We locked down.

Some countries locked down much harder than others.

And what happened?

It didn't work...obviously...

So do it again?

What was the alleged Einstein quote again? Do the same thing over and over again and expect a different outcome?

What is going on here?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

When are you guys going to cancel PA Off-topic?

I am hoping beyond hope when Trump vacates your heads, reason to some degree returns.

However it is getting pretty tedious, so maybe I will, if boxcar reneges on our wager, and refuses to leaves.

This site is becoming "boxcarized"
Hope you are happy.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by hcap

I am hoping beyond hope when Trump vacates your heads, reason to some degree returns.

Reason has never lived in your head, so that would be impossible.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Reason has never lived in your head, so that would be impossible.

No, conspiracies have not.

[hcap]

Daily COVID-19 deaths spike by nearly 1,900 for first time since May - as infections hit record high of 144k and hospitalizations surge
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rly-1-900.html

The US COVID-19 death toll spiked to 1,893 on Wednesday, which is the highest number of fatalities since May 8 during the initial peak of the outbreak
New infections across the country hit a record high of 144,133 cases and hospitalizations spiked to a single-day high of more 65,000 patients
While new cases and hospitalizations have been surging since October, the number of Americans dying per day has not been rising at the same rates
It puts the seven-day rolling average of fatalities back over 1,000 per day - a figure not seen since August. The average death toll had hit lows of 600 last month before gradually increasing
Deaths, which are a lagging indicator and can potentially rise weeks after infections, are still down from the peak 2,000 fatalities recorded per day in the spring
Cases per day are currently on the rise in 49 states and deaths per day are climbing in 39
Midwestern states, including North Dakota, South Dakota and Wisconsin, are currently seeing a surge in fatalities - weeks after cases and hospitalizations started to spike in those regions
The increases came as Joe Biden's new COVID advisor, Dr Michael Osterholm, said the US should go into a total national lockdown for six weeks to avoid 'virus hell'
Despite Osterholm's calls for a national lockdown, the latest Gallup polling shows that less than half of Americans say they will likely comply
Dr Anthony Fauci, however, has insisted a lockdown doesn't need to happen if Americans keep wearing masks and washing their hands

[davew]

something extremely bogus is going on

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...9-one-day.html

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by davew

something extremely bogus is going on

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...9-one-day.html

I posted several weeks about about these very flawed tests. Europe is already suspicious about them, as it should be.

Because of this flawed testing system, which was known beforehand by the developer to be far too sensitive, German lawyers are working with teams of other lawyers internationally to file lawsuits, since various other public health authorities, such as the CDC, also knew that the testing is inherently flawed but used them anyway.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by davew

something extremely bogus is going on

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...9-one-day.html

I've got one word to explain everything....

SCIENCE!

[46zilzal]

Originally Posted by hcap

You told me

"Masks have done nothing. Lockdowns have done nothing. social distancing has done nothing. Thanks for pointing out the idiocy of prevention measures".

Recent Kansas study made it so obvious.

https://coronavirus.medium.com/a-cas...s-b073f7529dac

quoter. Hesham A. Hassaballa, a critical care physician, digs into the data of what happened when a mask mandate was instituted by the governor of Kansas in July. Counties in Kansas were allowed to opt out of the mandate, and dozens of counties did so. Researchers compared the spread of Covid-19 in those counties with the mask mandate and those without and found that in the first two weeks after the mask mandate, cases rose in all counties. However, two weeks later, cases were steady and/or declined. When they controlled for social distancing, they found that the mask mandate decreased transmission between 50% and 61% in those counties that adopted the mandate.

“Now, it is absolutely true that masks do not completely prevent the spread of Covid-19,” writes Hassaballa. “No one has ever said that. It is, however, absolutely true that wearing masks slows transmission of the virus, and we now have real-world data to back this up.”

[GMB@BP]

We have had a mask mandate here in Arizona for every county since June.....and were spiking harder then ever in November.

How is that possible, we spiked with no mandate (heck hardly anyone wore them), now were spiking even faster?

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by GMB@BP

We have had a mask mandate here in Arizona for every county since June.....and were spiking harder then ever in November.

How is that possible, we spiked with no mandate (heck hardly anyone wore them), now were spiking even faster?

Please do not question authority in any way. I mean, an epidemiologist told you it was so. What can be more infallible than an epidemiologist? God prays to them according to Harry.