Famous Feuds: Pricci versus Byk, Crist, TLG, et al. More HOY Controversy

[andymays]

Of Intramurals, Fairness and Horse of the Year#comments

http://www.horseraceinsider.com/On-T...year/#comments

Excerpt:

Almost immediately after that piece appeared on HRI, I was embarrassed on a cable TV program hosted by Steve Byk, self-promoter extraordinaire.

Excerpt:

“It would only make a travesty of an awards process that is supposed to be ruled by fairness and reason rather than revenge and sentimentality,” wrote columnist Steven Crist.

If that is true then Crist should know that this game often is more about revenge and sentiment than it is about fairness and reason. It’s not as if Drape and I were about to vote for Zippy Chippy.

Local racing fans have told me that racing analyst Andy Serling said anyone voting for Zenyatta should lose their privileges, or words to that effect.

Serling’s remarks may or may not have been pointed, though I suspect they were. I never have seen the talented albeit abrasive acolyte disagree with his mentor publicly. Loyalty has its rewards.

[andymays]

For the record I disagree with Pricci on this one. I think it was a big mistake to declare Z HOY prior to the race. I think Blame should win the award.

[FenceBored]

Let's not forget the under the radar feud: Lenny Shulman and Andy Serling.

[andymays]

Originally Posted by FenceBored

Let's not forget the under the radar feud: Lenny Shulman and Andy Serling.

Didn't hear about that one.

[cj]

Originally Posted by andymays

Didn't hear about that one.

I think it was on Roger Stein. You missed that?

[andymays]

Originally Posted by cj

I think it was on Roger Stein. You missed that?

I guess I did. How big of a dust-up was it?

[cj]

Shulman was on, not TLG. He took a cheap shot or two. It dated back to them being on Byk's show together.

[andymays]

Originally Posted by cj

Shulman was on, not TLG. He took a cheap shot or two. It dated back to them being on Byk's show together.

I remember something like that but I don't remember him specifically talking about TLG. I must have been cooking breakfast and listening at the same time. Sausage and eggs makes too much noise to hear everything.

I like all these guys but I disagree with them from time to time. These dust-ups help the boards though.

[RXB]

"Indeed, since its inaugural in 1984, the majority of Classic winners were not named Horse of the Year; 11 were, 15 were not. Tiznow won two Classics and was Horse of the Year once. The same is true of Cigar."

Actually, Cigar is the opposite of Tiznow-- won the Classic once, HoY twice.

"Is five pre-Classic Grade 1 victories over females by a female more or less significant than two Grade 1s by a male over males?"

Three Gr 1 wins for Blame when the Classic is included.

[andymays]

It made the Paulick Report. I wonder how he got the article.



http://www.paulickreport.com/

Pricci takes off gloves: rips Byk, Serling, Crist for polarizing Horse of the Year debate

[Cardus]

If I were trying to take a shot at Crist -- which means, trying to make him look unreasonable or foolish -- then I would not have used that Crist quote.

Crist distills the debate quite intelligently.

That quote does nothing to bolster Pricci's column. Crist is correct.

[Tom]

Who owns the eclipse awards?

And why are they so damned lazy that they can't set criteria for getting the awards?

Until they do, anyone's opinion is a good as anyone else's.

[DeanT]

Jim C is not a Serling or Byk fan I see.He must be a Paceadvantage.com follower, because some references could only have been gleaned by reading Serling's paceadvantage Zenyatta diatribes.

http://www.horseraceinsider.com/On-T...e-year/#c91755

[The_Knight_Sky]

Originally Posted by andymays

I think it was a big mistake to declare Z HOY prior to the race.

That was like annointing the Dallas Cowboys as the NFC representative
in the Super Bowl before the season started.

10 yards for illegal procedure for any media type
who made up his/her mind before the Breeders Cup Classic was run.

[Cardus]

Originally Posted by andymays

Of Intramurals, Fairness and Horse of the Year#comments

http://www.horseraceinsider.com/On-T...year/#comments

Excerpt:

Almost immediately after that piece appeared on HRI, I was embarrassed on a cable TV program hosted by Steve Byk, self-promoter extraordinaire.

Excerpt:

“It would only make a travesty of an awards process that is supposed to be ruled by fairness and reason rather than revenge and sentimentality,” wrote columnist Steven Crist.

If that is true then Crist should know that this game often is more about revenge and sentiment than it is about fairness and reason. It’s not as if Drape and I were about to vote for Zippy Chippy.

Local racing fans have told me that racing analyst Andy Serling said anyone voting for Zenyatta should lose their privileges, or words to that effect.

Serling’s remarks may or may not have been pointed, though I suspect they were. I never have seen the talented albeit abrasive acolyte disagree with his mentor publicly. Loyalty has its rewards.

On what basis did Pricci conclude this? Is Pricci's belief that Serling has him in mind when he is on the air?

Is Pricci that important to believe this? (Is he important at all might be a better question.)