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07-24-2019, 01:29 PM
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#3586
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
Nunes' opening statement is scathing, I'm feeling more sorry for mueller as this goes on. Poor mueller looks defeated and over matched. No wonder he didn't want to go before committees.
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Yes, if lying and misrepresentating are scathing, then you are correct. Problem is they are not. They are simply lying.
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07-24-2019, 01:30 PM
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#3587
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Location: Behind the Pine Curtain
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Originally Posted by mostpost
All this bull stuff about Mueller being a senile old man are just an attempt to portray his investigation as biased and incompetent. It fact it was competent enough to secure the indictment and conviction of more than a dozen people.
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As I read this post, mueller just again said "could you repeat that question?" Awesome coincidence!
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07-24-2019, 01:34 PM
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#3588
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ElKabong
As I read this post, mueller just again said "could you repeat that question?" Awesome coincidence!
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07-24-2019, 01:45 PM
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#3589
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
Is that why a Federal Judge ordered Mueller to stop saying Russia interfered in the election?
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That is not what happened. In one specific case a judge ruled that it had not been proven that a Russian bot farm was connected to the Russian government.
But it was also not proven that it was not connected.
The fact is the judge did not order Mueller to stop talking about Russian interference. He only ordered him to not include it in an indictment in a particular case.
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07-24-2019, 01:47 PM
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#3590
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Originally Posted by woodtoo
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Mueller's testimony would have made for a great drinking game. You'd have to down a shot after every "could you repeat that question".
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07-24-2019, 01:50 PM
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#3591
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The Voice of Reason!
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Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost View Post
Gretzky is a loudmouth and a bully. He didn’t question Mueller. He gave a speech that was replete with lies and inaccuracies;
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Oh good grief, come off it.
The dems were giving just as many speeches, in fact far more speeches than the repubs were. That is basically all they did.
I think you are n the wrong room here - basket weaving is down the hall.
There is an open seat, right behind Bobby.
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07-24-2019, 01:55 PM
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#3592
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Quintessential guru
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
That is not what happened. In one specific case a judge ruled that it had not been proven that a Russian bot farm was connected to the Russian government.
But it was also not proven that it was not connected.
The fact is the judge did not order Mueller to stop talking about Russian interference. He only ordered him to not include it in an indictment in a particular case.
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You are correct Mueller could not prove Russia's government interfered. Thus, the Judge ordered him to stop saying Russia interfered in the election, as a legal fact. And all those convictions you refer to are not connected to Russian interference, but tax related crimes, fraudulent statements, taxi cab medallions, etc.
Not one person was convicted or even charged due to collusion or conspiracy with Russia.
Our justice system is not based on proving a negative. You prove a connection ( a positive), if the connection is not proven the person or entity is considered innocent of the charges.
Last edited by Show Me the Wire; 07-24-2019 at 02:03 PM.
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07-24-2019, 02:02 PM
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#3593
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This was very badly miscalculated by the Dems, Mueller did them no favors.
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07-24-2019, 02:03 PM
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#3594
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ElKabong
Mueller's testimony would have made for a great drinking game. You'd have to down a shot after every "could you repeat that question".
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You amateurs don’t understand testifying either in court or before a Congressional committee. Any good lawyer will tell his client to answer the questions and only the questions. Don’t editorialize and don’t volunteer information that isn’t asked for. Also if you don’t understand a question or didn’t hear a portion of it, you ask to have it repeated.
Robert Mueller is a careful and precise person. He certainly knows all these principles
Also, being hard of hearing does not effect a persons competence. Nor does it effect their integrity.
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07-24-2019, 02:06 PM
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Quintessential guru
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Pay attention to the Papadopoulos and Mifsud questions. As mentioned earlier in this thread Mifsud is a very big problem for Mueller and the FBI.
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07-24-2019, 02:08 PM
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#3596
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Buckle Up
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
You amateurs don’t understand testifying either in court or before a Congressional committee.
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By all means Mr. Professional Postman, school us amateurs with your knowledge and wisdom of Congressional procedure and decorum.....Keep it concise, as we tend to lose focus quickly.
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07-24-2019, 02:09 PM
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#3597
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Quintessential guru
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,254
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
You amateurs don’t understand testifying either in court or before a Congressional committee. Any good lawyer will tell his client to answer the questions and only the questions. Don’t editorialize and don’t volunteer information that isn’t asked for. Also if you don’t understand a question or didn’t hear a portion of it, you ask to have it repeated.
Robert Mueller is a careful and precise person. He certainly knows all these principles
Also, being hard of hearing does not effect a persons competence. Nor does it effect their integrity.
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And what does your legal acumen tell you about a witness who changes his testimony? Does that make the witness more or less credible?
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07-24-2019, 02:10 PM
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#3598
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Behind the Pine Curtain
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
Robert Mueller is a careful and precise person. He certainly knows all these principles
Also, being hard of hearing does not effect a persons competence. Nor does it effect their integrity.
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He's being tagged "mr Magoo " on the web. Well deserved
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Last edited by ElKabong; 07-24-2019 at 02:20 PM.
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07-24-2019, 02:18 PM
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#3599
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,658
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
All this bull stuff about Mueller being a senile old man are just an attempt to portray his investigation as biased and incompetent. It fact it was competent enough to secure the indictment and conviction of more than a dozen people.
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Now you sound mighty desperate...this is fun.
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07-24-2019, 02:22 PM
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#3600
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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I think we now know the REAL reason ely bailed a few days ago.
He's always been a smart cookie.
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