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Old 05-07-2016, 04:00 PM   #181
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Guess he was sitting on a good one. Wish the pools were this big at monmouth and gulfstream
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:33 PM   #182
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just won the 10th at CD at 13-1 (JUICE!!!!!)
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:35 PM   #183
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:36 PM   #184
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next year. first off the claim derby winner
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:36 PM   #185
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THE MEDICINE IS STRONG THERE BOY!.... at least i had the sense to back up my best bet of the day with him and bet w/p ... i simply cant beat that gas.... i feel cheated
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:38 PM   #186
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I had him in the DerbyWars contest...didn't even look at the trainer, let alone handicap him...
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:38 PM   #187
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I had him in the DerbyWars contest...didn't even look at the trainer...
He burned me once, not twice
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:44 PM   #188
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What are the odds on a positive test?
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:47 PM   #189
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Old 05-07-2016, 08:13 PM   #190
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What are the odds on a positive test?
An old trainer told me years ago if an outfit was going to 'take a shot' to do so on Derby Day, as anything goes. Taking a 'shot' --as he meant it-- was using something not often used, if you catch my drift.

Nowadays certain trainers take a shot, Every Day, sad to say.
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Old 05-07-2016, 11:51 PM   #191
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Because they aren't on something, or is it something that doesn't get tested? We all "know" this guy isn't on the up and up. He was "denied" stalls at Tampa before. Why do we as betters continue to play this game? Throw pace handicapping out the window when it comes to these super trainers because the faster the pace the better when their horses are on the front end. These super trainers are starting to get bigger balls by the minute and it is starting to creep into the Graded and "Traditional" races. I don't know if the powers that be are going to stand for that, then again I don't know if anyone cares anymore. The money grab in this country has become ridiculous.
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Old 05-08-2016, 12:09 AM   #192
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Because they aren't on something, or is it something that doesn't get tested? We all "know" this guy isn't on the up and up. He was "denied" stalls at Tampa before. Why do we as betters continue to play this game? Throw pace handicapping out the window when it comes to these super trainers because the faster the pace the better when their horses are on the front end. These super trainers are starting to get bigger balls by the minute and it is starting to creep into the Graded and "Traditional" races. I don't know if the powers that be are going to stand for that, then again I don't know if anyone cares anymore. The money grab in this country has become ridiculous.
It's easy money, it's a "loophole" where you can steal money and if you're caught there's zero jail time, no police record, etc.
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Old 05-08-2016, 02:09 AM   #193
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I wonder why the other trainers don't take a stand.....scratch every time one of these guys have an entry.
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Old 05-08-2016, 05:17 AM   #194
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I wonder why the other trainers don't take a stand.....scratch every time one of these guys have an entry.
I agree, if you run against him, you're accepting and condoning it. Just tell the race secretary that if he's in the race, I'm not running.

Good suggestion.
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Old 05-08-2016, 12:34 PM   #195
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I wont be betting races where he has a horse, might stab on his longshots as well.
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