Preakness favorite

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by TracksideTalk

What was the point of your statement?
Also why have you purposely avoided answering any of my comments?

Probably because he doesn't owe you a thing...whoever you are...lol

Why do people feel so fucking entitled? LMAO

And next time you want to converse civilly with someone, and have them actually answer you back, you might want to avoid jumping them like an enraged barnyard animal next time out.

[TracksideTalk]

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

was wise of him to 'feel things out' before posting.

when i joined, i used up my demand-statements on Stillriledup

I didn’t wait to feel anything out
I’m a huge admirer of horse racing and I can see the writing on the wall.
The lack of respect given to the bettors is awful and every racing jurisdiction refuses to report any infraction that makes them look bad.
Mr Serling is employed by NYRA and he’s very quick with his trigger finger when others get in trouble.
Yet when his employer gets in trouble he acts as if nothing happened.
The perfect example of a hypocrite.

[TracksideTalk]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Probably because he doesn't owe you a thing...whoever you are...lol

Why do people feel so fucking entitled? LMAO

And next time you want to converse civilly with someone, and have them actually answer you back, you might want to avoid jumping them like an enraged barnyard animal next time out.

First off why do you feel the need to use profanity?
Secondly you don’t know who I am, nor do I know who you are.
So we are even.
You then proceed to insult me by calling me a “enraged barnyard animal”
The statement you’ve made reaffirms that there are many keyboard warriors that feel so brave on any platform, but face to face they wouldn’t say a word.
I haven’t insulted you or Mr Serling, wish you’d be more civil.
I’m assuming you can’t and most likely enjoy playing the role of a bully.

[PaceAdvantage]

Good thing I don't care...that might have hurt

BTW, quick question...what does NYRA have to do with any of the stuff you mentioned, exactly?

Isn't it all up to the NYS Gaming Commission?

Maybe I'm just dumb...but pretty sure the NYSGC is the one who ultimately calls the shots on all of this stuff.

Last I looked, Andy doesn't work for the NYSGC

[PaceAdvantage]

And another thing...Andy is a handicapper for NYRA.

He doesn't work security. He doesn't work in litigation. He doesn't work the test barn. He works in nothing related to what you're asking about.

Maybe you should demand from him to answer why one of the lights are out in the lady's room next?

[TracksideTalk]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Good thing I don't care...that might have hurt

BTW, quick question...what does NYRA have to do with any of the stuff you mentioned, exactly?

Isn't it all up to the NYS Gaming Commission?

Maybe I'm just dumb...but pretty sure the NYSGC is the one who ultimately calls the shots on all of this stuff.

NYRA can ban anyone from the track without consent from the NYSGC.
I’d never call anyone dumb.
Do you follow the NY circuit closely?
Are you also saying that no one within NYRA didn’t know about Forte’s failed drug test?
If Mr Drape didn’t write that story the failed test would still be unknown to the general public.

[PaceAdvantage]

Do you go to the NYRA website to look up trainer suspensions?

No, you go to the gaming commission...search on Pletcher...it's right there...

https://rulings.gaming.ny.gov/index.php

GAMING COMMISSION RULINGS

not NYRA rulings...

[TracksideTalk]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

And another thing...Andy is a handicapper for NYRA.

He doesn't work security. He doesn't work in litigation. He doesn't work the test barn. He works in nothing related to what you're asking about.

Maybe you should demand from him to answer why one of the lights are out in the lady's room next?

It’s gallant that you feel the need to protect Mr Serling on this forum.
It’s also comical that you say he’s just a handicapper for them.
He’s quick to point out other racing jurisdictions problems on many social media platforms, yet when a NYRA issue arises he becomes radio silent.
Can’t have your cake and eat it but maybe you can on this platform.

[TracksideTalk]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Do you go to the NYRA website to look up trainer suspensions?

No, you go to the gaming commission...search on Pletcher...it's right there...

https://rulings.gaming.ny.gov/index.php

GAMING COMMISSION RULINGS

not NYRA rulings...

Why don’t you answer any of my questions?

NYRA can ban anyone without the NYSGC commission permission

Are you saying no one within NYRA knew about the failed test?

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by TracksideTalk

It’s gallant that you feel the need to protect Mr Serling on this forum.
It’s also comical that you say he’s just a handicapper for them.
He’s quick to point out other racing jurisdictions problems on many social media platforms, yet when a NYRA issue arises he becomes radio silent.
Can’t have your cake and eat it but maybe you can on this platform.

Andy is free to comment about anything he wishes. And equally free to not comment on anything he wishes.

He doesn't owe you or I an explanation on anything, actually.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by TracksideTalk

Why don’t you answer any of my questions?

NYRA can ban anyone without the NYSGC commission permission

Are you saying no one within NYRA knew about the failed test?

NYRA can ban anyone at will, eh?

Really now...

How'd that work out with Baffert, by the way?

Didn't they try and ban him without due process?

That didn't end well:

https://www.wamc.org/wamc-news/2021-...s-with-baffert

It took another year before the suspension finally went through.

[TracksideTalk]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Andy is free to comment about anything he wishes. And equally free to not comment on anything he wishes.

He doesn't owe you or I an explanation on anything, actually.

First reply you’ve written that makes sense.
He doesn’t owe me or anyone an explanation, but everyone also realizes how he dodges all NYRA’s problems.

If Forte was trained by Baffert,Diodoro he’d have blown a gasket but since he’s trained by Pletcher he sticks his head in the sand.
You can’t be part of the solution if you’re part of the problem

[MJC922]

I can't speak for NYRA's employee policies but it's quite common to not be permitted to comment in the media on matters involving the employer. My last three employers had me sign something to that effect. Andy comments on quite a bit IMO but I'm sure there are limits. The problem with drugs besides the fact that we don't know who gets what when and at what dosages are that overages are inevitable. This puts everyone in a bad position and the only solution to it which most of the trainers unfortunately oppose vehemently is drug-free racing.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by TracksideTalk

First reply you’ve written that makes sense.
He doesn’t owe me or anyone an explanation, but everyone also realizes how he dodges all NYRA’s problems.

If Forte was trained by Baffert,Diodoro he’d have blown a gasket but since he’s trained by Pletcher he sticks his head in the sand.
You can’t be part of the solution if you’re part of the problem

So I get this from TracksideTalk in a "Reported Post" message to me (when you report a post, you can also leave me a message as to why):

I’d like to know why you could curse and me and call me names & I kept it polite and courteous yet you decided to lock my accopunt
So you’ve proved to be the biggest pussy on earth
FUCK you and your shitty forum

News Flash: I did NOT lock your account.

However, YOU updated your email address on your account, and the system won't let you back in until you VERIFY your new email address by opening the email SENT to the NEW ADDRESS.

SO FUCK YOU TOO -- idiot.

You are of course free to return here once you realize how dumb you are, and all you have to do is verify your new email address.

[burnsy]

Originally Posted by MJC922

I can't speak for NYRA's employee policies but it's quite common to not be permitted to comment in the media on matters involving the employer. My last three employers had me sign something to that effect. Andy comments on quite a bit IMO but I'm sure there are limits. The problem with drugs besides the fact that we don't know who gets what when and at what dosages are that overages are inevitable. This puts everyone in a bad position and the only solution to it which most of the trainers unfortunately oppose vehemently is drug-free racing.

Drug free anything is a pipe dream in any sport these days . The humans get shot up to make games , nobody even blinks . These guys tweak something or are 3 days short of being off an injury . They’re freaking playing that day . To deny athletes don’t get sore or nicked is folly . With horses , they can’t speak and if they hurt a leg it’s near deadly . So, precaution and safety has to be taken seriously. Horse racing is doing better . The trainers are aware that quick turn around for some horses doesn’t work . And tracks are scratching horses to be safe . They are aware that break downs are horrific and bad for the game . They handle the overages like crap . Don’t try to hide it , release the violation immediately. Then conduct an investigation. Have some explanation, the hush hush just leads to the public perceiving the worst . I’m going go out on a limb and just guess that a great majority of these violations are situations where the horse has a minor issue. Now, if an investigation is done and the intention was to make the horse run faster or artificially increase stamina . That should be considered a major offense with an major sanction. The shady way these things are held back and released or not expanded on and explained just makes it look bad . In other words , it looks bad enough , get out there and be in front of it because you can’t hide anything forever these days anyway . Why multiply the problem .