Derma Sotogake, a quiet 6th?

[PalaceOfFortLarned]

Uninteresting and off the board, the Japanese invader didn't embarrass himself beating 2/3rds of the field including the wise guy choice Angel of Empire.

Will they continue upon the Triple Crown trail?

I'd like to see more as I don't think we got his best yesterday.

[dballard125]

He didn’t beat Angel of Empire.

[garyscpa]

Originally Posted by PalaceOfFortLarned

Uninteresting and off the board, the Japanese invader didn't embarrass himself beating 2/3rds of the field including the wise guy choice Angel of Empire.

Will they continue upon the Triple Crown trail?

I'd like to see more as I don't think we got his best yesterday.

He didn't beat AoE. He did beat Tap it Trice.

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by PalaceOfFortLarned

Uninteresting and off the board, the Japanese invader didn't embarrass himself beating 2/3rds of the field including the wise guy choice Angel of Empire.

Will they continue upon the Triple Crown trail?

I'd like to see more as I don't think we got his best yesterday.

I know enough about context that I'm guessing you meant Tapit Trice. Either way, I know what you meant.

Quality field and tough circumstances this year. (i know we whine every year that every year is the worst apocalypse)

Derma Sotogake had a terrible break, but would have finished 6th or worse had things gone to plan.
If he had decided to be conservative and rate the best he could have finished was 'fourth', so although dissapointing, his 'sixth' this year was about as good as possible given the circumstances and trip.


I have no idea what their plans are.
Preakness looks tough in that Mage is too good should he run his race back.

I doubt Forte and/or Two Phil's run in the Preakness but that makes 3 that are super tough to beat straight up.

Depending on who is entered, Derma could potentially have a better trip on the lead in the Preakness than he would have had in the Derby.
He's a Grade 1 or 2 horse and I'd love to see him run.

[Aerocraft67]

Not a good day for a clunker. He broke sideways and ground out a tough trip from the last third to the second third of the pack. He did get a look in the stretch but no one that finished ahead of him was backing up his way.

He finished sixth after all that, maybe he could have kept pace with Two Phil's all the way for a decent share under better circumstances, but probably not beating Mage.

I'd certainly bet him again, although his trouble is pretty obvious here, so I wouldn't anticipate any real discount. But he might remain a little underrated if he's a good as the figure guys (by them I mean Andy Beyer and Craig Milkowski) thought he was coming into this of his UAE Derby.

[classhandicapper]

I haven't watch the replay carefully yet, but it looked like he got a bad start. That's not his game. He can rate and finish, but I don't think we can assume he wants to be that far back. I hope they give him one more shot in the Preakness just to see what he can do in a smaller field with a decent start. He may not be that good, but I'd like to see.

[depalma113]

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

Depending on who is entered, Derma could potentially have a better trip on the lead in the Preakness than he would have had in the Derby.
He's a Grade 1 or 2 horse and I'd love to see him run.

All three Japanese horses are heading back to Japan today.

[Hoops McCann]

that's too bad. i'd like to see him take a shot at the Preakness

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by depalma113

All three Japanese horses are heading back to Japan today.

good info

safe travels

[classhandicapper]

Graham Pavey
@LongBallToNoOne
September 27 at Funabashi at this stage for DERMA SOTOGAKE and also USHBA TESORO, both pointed towards Breeders Cup Classics afterwards