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Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
Yes, I do think the pace is going to be fast. ...
It's all relative. You know.... Compared to 2022 Kentucky Derby, it's obvious that it is highly probable that this race will be 'slow'. Compared to many of the preps and typical races, it's obvious that it is highly probable to be considered 'fast'.
A slug like Barber Road or Rich Strike was unlikely to get a setup in the 2022 Derby, and it is extremely unlikely that they will this year.
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Originally Posted by PalaceOfFortLarned
Continuar isn't sending. Not sure that horse can run a sub :24 1st quarter even if whipped 10 times.
Kingsbarns isn't fast either. He was gifted the lead in the LA Derby and capitalized. Pletcher isn't going to waste him in a :45 or :46 and change duel.
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it was insane to see Kingsbarns as 4th!!!
choice.
I don't even trust myself, i may be mis-counting?
the instructions were never a 'sacrifice', even before Forte(Derby Favorite)(Irad Ortiz)(owner Repole) was forced to scratch under the political pressure.
Jose Ortiz wasn't asked to take the mount to sacrifice for his brother and a top owner who would pay him forward with a stakes mount, but his job was ensure that the pace wasn't unexpectedly gifted to a horse like Verifying or Derma, and to try to settle on the pace in a nice rhythm and take a shot at a win as well.
Kingsbarns wasn't a contender, but he had a long shot chance in a dream scenario of contending, and we had to get Forte home to victory. Forte was SO CLOSE they were smelling the roses.
Tapit Trice is a really good horse, he just doesn't have the style to contend for the exacta in the Derby.
Kingsbarns could contend in the Haskell or PA Derby or something who knows? Kingsbarns is a nice horse when he gets a field and a task and a pace scenario. He could end up being even better as he matures and uses more versatility. I have no idea if he can run on the Turf, but doesn't he seem like he'd have a possibility to do well on a G3 or whatever turf route w/out rival pace players... just rate on the lead and roll home? not a 'bad' horse by any means.