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09-17-2020, 12:37 PM
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More Proof that Masking Up is Ineffective
The guy in the vid waxes a little verbose, so my wife edited the vid to get to the heart of it. Watch the good doctor's demonstration.
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09-17-2020, 12:52 PM
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09-17-2020, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
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Droplets carrying the virus most certainly will be stopped by any kind of mask...like when you sneeze...or if you spit while you talk...
Obviously, no masks are AIR TIGHT or else nobody would be able to BREATH while wearing them...
The point of the mask isn't to stop AIR...it's to stop droplets carrying the virus...which I believe most of them do quite effectively...
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09-17-2020, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Droplets carrying the virus most certainly will be stopped by any kind of mask...like when you sneeze...or if you spit while you talk...
Obviously, no masks are AIR TIGHT or else nobody would be able to BREATH while wearing them...
The point of the mask isn't to stop AIR...it's to stop droplets carrying the virus...which I believe most of them do quite effectively...
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Mesh size of masks matter less on transmission.
The finer the mesh of the mask the more effective it is protecting indivduals from being infected. However in terms of community spread, a coarser mesh will stop transmission to others at the source, the mouth and nose of the wearer
If we mobilized the Defense Production Act, N95 masks could be made a lot cheaper and available to everyone. N95 have a very fine mesh.
Unfortunately a vaccine will not be able to be distributed en masse for at best maybe a year.
Earlier today, Robert Redfield, head of the Centers for Disease Control, provoked the ire of some parts of the internet when he suggested that masks might be more effective than vaccines. “I might even go so far as to say that this face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against COVID than when I take a COVID vaccine,” Redford said while testifying before the Senate Subcommittee on Labor, Health and Human Services on expectations around the release of COVID-19 vaccines.
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09-17-2020, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RunForTheRoses
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He who is a civil disobedient sometimes has to pay the cost.
You know LAW and ORDER and all that good stuff.
Allan
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09-17-2020, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Droplets carrying the virus most certainly will be stopped by any kind of mask...like when you sneeze...or if you spit while you talk...
Obviously, no masks are AIR TIGHT or else nobody would be able to BREATH while wearing them...
The point of the mask isn't to stop AIR...it's to stop droplets carrying the virus...which I believe most of them do quite effectively...
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Droplets carrying the virus are smaller or same size as the aerosol vape according to the doctor. Did you miss that?
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09-17-2020, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RunForTheRoses
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Mental health issues are real apparently
Is it that hard to put a damn mask on a for a few minutes?
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09-17-2020, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Droplets carrying the virus are smaller or same size as the aerosol vape according to the doctor. Did you miss that?
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Agreed. Masks are only effective in decreasing the distance with which droplets travel. They do not stop the droplets from escaping your mask except when the droplet is very large. Decreasing the distance traveled is important to prevent superspreader events, but the virus is still in the air regardless and if you breathe it in, you may catch it.
Again, the most important thing you can do is wash your hands consistently after touching anything when you're out and about, and for heavens sake, stop touching your face. Those two things alone will do more to prevent covid than any mask.
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09-17-2020, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
Mental health issues are real apparently
Is it that hard to put a damn mask on a for a few minutes?
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For people with other respiratory issues, it is hard.
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09-17-2020, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
Mental health issues are real apparently
Is it that hard to put a damn mask on a for a few minutes?
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Yeah, on the one hand I don't know if it really does anything but it is not that hard to do so.
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09-17-2020, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Droplets carrying the virus are smaller or same size as the aerosol vape according to the doctor. Did you miss that?
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Right...because if I spit in a mask it will just come flying out the front... 
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09-17-2020, 03:33 PM
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what an easy game.
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"Barr says calls for coronavirus lockdown are the 'greatest intrusion on civil liberties' other than slavery in US history". I gather he would say the same for the military draft. Why be responsible for protecting our fellows?
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09-17-2020, 03:40 PM
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Right...because if I spit in a mask it will just come flying out the front... |
What about the front of the mask? Do you wear only one-way masks?
Moreover, your mask is supposed to be protecting others, remember? Your mask isn't for self-protection. Only N95's do that.
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09-17-2020, 03:48 PM
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The bottom line is that masks provide at least SOME protection over not wearing a mask.
That's common sense. That's why people have been wearing masks for centuries...
It's why surgeons wear masks while operating on a patient. You think they like wearing a mask?
Not only do they offer at least SOME physical protection, but apparently, they put others at ease as well...which is fine by me.
Don't worry...after November 3, you'll be amazed how quickly mask requirements will start to disappear...
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09-17-2020, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
The bottom line is that masks provide at least SOME protection over not wearing a mask.
That's common sense. That's why people have been wearing masks for centuries...
It's why surgeons wear masks while operating on a patient. You think they like wearing a mask?
Not only do they offer at least SOME physical protection, but apparently, they put others at ease as well...which is fine by me.
Don't worry...after November 3, you'll be amazed how quickly mask requirements will start to disappear...
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People have been wearing masks for centuries for what purpose? To protect themselves from viruses?
Surgeons get to choose their profession. I would think that if they objected to masks, they would have become bankers or lawyers instead. Plus they wear them only on the job.
Common sense says that we quarantine the sick and let the healthy get on with their lives. This, in fact, has been done for centuries. 
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