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07-11-2013, 05:30 PM
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#181
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Racing Form Detective
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Location: Lincoln, Ne but my heart is at Santa Anita
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Goren
is the interesting horse, a 250K YEARLING with a lot of bullets. She is either really good or they are trying to get her in shape.
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I guess it was the latter.
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07-11-2013, 05:32 PM
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#182
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Now that it is over, a recap:
Pace Projector: 6-1-7-11, no style favored
Best by last Speed Figure on today's surface:1 (82) 6 (82) 3 (77)
Was 6-11-2-7 after a half, finished 1-5-4, 1 was 6 to 1.
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07-11-2013, 05:32 PM
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#183
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EXCEL with SUPERFECTAS
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 10,206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
I guess we will see in a couple minutes.
Path of Dreams will either make or break my day.
I think I see an improving horse, but there are a bunch of unknowns.
Ice cold on the board I'm betting WPS and wheeling 1 top and bottom of all in exactas.
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$147 $1 exacta, nice play Robert!!
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07-11-2013, 05:34 PM
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#184
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EXCEL with SUPERFECTAS
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 10,206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Now that it is over, a recap:
Pace Projector: 6-1-7-11, no style favored
Best by last Speed Figure on today's surface:1 (82) 6 (82) 3 (77)
Was 6-11-2-7 after a half, finished 1-5-4, 1 was 6 to 1.
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Yeah, it looked like it was between the class/distance ranked horses for the win. Wish I'd played the race!
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07-11-2013, 05:36 PM
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#185
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EXCEL with SUPERFECTAS
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Goren
I guess it was the latter.
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For sure! Looked really strong until the fade.
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07-11-2013, 05:38 PM
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#186
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: The Big Apple
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Congratulations to Timeform/Betfair for putting together TUS if it happened that way.
I have been a Phil Bull-ian for over 30 years and never a Beyer-ian. I say that not in a demeaning way, but I never thought speed figures were (and still don’t) the right approach to a quantitative handicapping methodology for deriving a qualitative assessment of a racehorse.
Also what is good about TUS to me is that it might be a way to better integrate the world horseracing markets; only time will tell.
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07-11-2013, 05:38 PM
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#187
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EXCEL with SUPERFECTAS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Now that it is over, a recap:
Pace Projector: 6-1-7-11, no style favored
Best by last Speed Figure on today's surface:1 (82) 6 (82) 3 (77)
Was 6-11-2-7 after a half, finished 1-5-4, 1 was 6 to 1.
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I had at the quarter, at the half.
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07-11-2013, 05:42 PM
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#188
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EXCEL with SUPERFECTAS
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Hmmmm ---- maybe we should do this again, it was fun, and lots of angles from different folks. Entertaining, at least for me.
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07-11-2013, 05:46 PM
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#189
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Originally Posted by raybo
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I would almost never have this. How often does a horse not in the top 3 surge to the front at the 1/2? Seems pretty odd.
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07-11-2013, 05:47 PM
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#190
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by raybo
Hmmmm ---- maybe we should do this again, it was fun, and lots of angles from different folks. Entertaining, at least for me.
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I will try to do it again tomorrow.
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07-11-2013, 05:56 PM
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#191
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: MI
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Hey Pace cappers, everything fails (speed, class, connections, etc.). How would you guess that the pace figurers are good for the race and the race will run as expected?
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07-11-2013, 06:00 PM
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#192
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capper Al
Hey Pace cappers, everything fails (speed, class, connections, etc.). How would you guess that the pace figurers are good for the race and the race will run as expected?
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Can you try that again in English?
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07-11-2013, 06:17 PM
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#193
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Join Date: Apr 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capper Al
Hey Pace cappers, everything fails (speed, class, connections, etc.). How would you guess that the pace figurers are good for the race and the race will run as expected?
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You are on a role lately.
I second CJ's motion.
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07-11-2013, 08:09 PM
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#194
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Join Date: May 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Now that it is over, a recap:
Pace Projector: 6-1-7-11, no style favored
Best by last Speed Figure on today's surface:1 (82) 6 (82) 3 (77)
Was 6-11-2-7 after a half, finished 1-5-4, 1 was 6 to 1.
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I had the One in this race,but I used it because of less than ideal trip in his last race plus a good race at Gulfstream. I also liked the jockey change.Also,it didn't hurt that he had 2 or 4 numbers that could win the race.
Thanks for this thread,I really made the day enjoyable.
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07-11-2013, 08:10 PM
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#195
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Queens, New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by raybo
Yeah, I have its fair odds at 6/1.
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I had at 8-1 which means a play at 9-1 or higher. 7-1 no bet
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