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Old 03-20-2015, 02:34 PM   #31
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Took a quick glimpse at it a few yrs. back and was working at the time so I didn't put much effort into learning it. Now that I am retired I would like to try again, but I am not allowed another 30 day trial period because it is linked to your e-mail account and I keep getting free trial period over message. Oh well.
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Old 03-20-2015, 03:18 PM   #32
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An example of my method.
6th race at GP today 032015
QuickHorse (c) 2014 - Website: http://quickreckoning.com/horses.htm
Custom Method: Bet2 - Bet2
GULFSTREAM PARK 03-20-2015 RACE 6 OF 10 - TRACK RATING: 88
8.0f DIRT F&M 4&UP Nw 2 WGT 123 LBS NON-WS 1MI/OVER SNC FEB 20 2 LBS CLM $6 250 WGR: $1 D
CLAIMING PURSE: $15000 RACE RATINGS: PRE 13

Weighting Factors 2 5 1
PP Name *Pace *OBJ ML SCORE
1 MIMIS DREAM 47.08 61.79 3.00 7-1
2 BULLHEADED LADY 53.38 65.09 3.50 7-1
3 SEDUCCION 42.11 43.48 20.00 11-1
4 KEEP IN MIND 32.56 35.35 20.00 13-1
5 LOVER GONE WILD 50.00 38.43 15.00 11-1
6 LITTLE ZOE 42.04 62.77 6.00 8-1
7 JOAQUINA 38.38 30.26 20.00 14-1
8 MONGOLIAN HONEY 59.26 *66.38 *2.50 7-1
9 FAIR SHAKE 58.76 48.23 10.00 9-1
10 AFLEET ALLIE *66.36 44.61 20.00 9-1
The number of past races used is 6
******** THIS RACE MEETS MY CULLING REQUIREMENTS *********
MY TIP SHEET PREDICTIONS (USING Bet2):
PGM HORSE ODDS JOCKEY TRAINER OOF
8 MONGOLIAN HONEY 2.5 ZAYAS E. J. NAVARRO J.
2 BULLHEADED LADY 3.5 GAFFALIONE T. WALDER P. R.
1 MIMIS DREAM 3.0 GONZALES J. J. WALDER P. R.
6 LITTLE ZOE 6.0 CRUZ J. DELGADO G.
9 FAIR SHAKE 10.0 CARABALLO J. C. GRIFFITH R.
10 AFLEET ALLIE 20.0 MONTERREY JR. P. CARRASCO M. H.
5 LOVER GONE WILD 15.0 VASQUEZ M. A. CASCALLARES N.
3 SEDUCCION 20.0 CONTRERAS L. DUCO L.
4 KEEP IN MIND 20.0 NELSON L. PERSAUD R.

Separate the field at the 6\9. Use the to scout for winners and for exotics. Also like to see when my top pick matches the public as a sign of true favorite. If not then I have a chance to make money when the public is wrong. To look at this printout properly, cut and paste into notepad and chance font to Lucinda Console.

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Old 03-20-2015, 03:48 PM   #33
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An example of my method.
6th race at GP today 032015
QuickHorse (c) 2014 - Website: http://quickreckoning.com/horses.htm
Custom Method: Bet2 - Bet2
GULFSTREAM PARK 03-20-2015 RACE 6 OF 10 - TRACK RATING: 88
8.0f DIRT F&M 4&UP Nw 2 WGT 123 LBS NON-WS 1MI/OVER SNC FEB 20 2 LBS CLM $6 250 WGR: $1 D
CLAIMING PURSE: $15000 RACE RATINGS: PRE 13

Weighting Factors 2 5 1
PP Name *Pace *OBJ ML SCORE
1 MIMIS DREAM 47.08 61.79 3.00 7-1
2 BULLHEADED LADY 53.38 65.09 3.50 7-1
3 SEDUCCION 42.11 43.48 20.00 11-1
4 KEEP IN MIND 32.56 35.35 20.00 13-1
5 LOVER GONE WILD 50.00 38.43 15.00 11-1
6 LITTLE ZOE 42.04 62.77 6.00 8-1
7 JOAQUINA 38.38 30.26 20.00 14-1
8 MONGOLIAN HONEY 59.26 *66.38 *2.50 7-1
9 FAIR SHAKE 58.76 48.23 10.00 9-1
10 AFLEET ALLIE *66.36 44.61 20.00 9-1
The number of past races used is 6
******** THIS RACE MEETS MY CULLING REQUIREMENTS *********
MY TIP SHEET PREDICTIONS (USING Bet2):
PGM HORSE ODDS JOCKEY TRAINER OOF
8 MONGOLIAN HONEY 2.5 ZAYAS E. J. NAVARRO J.
2 BULLHEADED LADY 3.5 GAFFALIONE T. WALDER P. R.
1 MIMIS DREAM 3.0 GONZALES J. J. WALDER P. R.
6 LITTLE ZOE 6.0 CRUZ J. DELGADO G.
9 FAIR SHAKE 10.0 CARABALLO J. C. GRIFFITH R.
10 AFLEET ALLIE 20.0 MONTERREY JR. P. CARRASCO M. H.
5 LOVER GONE WILD 15.0 VASQUEZ M. A. CASCALLARES N.
3 SEDUCCION 20.0 CONTRERAS L. DUCO L.
4 KEEP IN MIND 20.0 NELSON L. PERSAUD R.

Separate the field at the 6\9. Use the to scout for winners and for exotics. Also like to see when my top pick matches the public as a sign of true favorite. If not then I have a chance to make money when the public is wrong. To look at this printout properly, cut and paste into notepad and chance font to Lucinda Console.
Results
Gulfstream Park - Race 6
# Win Place Show
2 $8.00 $3.80 $3.00
1 . $3.60 $2.80
9 . . $5.00

Wager Type Winning Numbers Paid
$1.00 Exacta 2/1 $8.90
$0.50 Trifecta 2/1/9 $26.65
$0.10 Superfecta 2/1/9/8 $12.46
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Old 03-20-2015, 05:46 PM   #34
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Thank you very much for the excellent explanation and example. Good handicapping and I hope you had the winner with many more to come.
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Old 03-20-2015, 09:50 PM   #35
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What am I Missing? Really I'm curious. I am a long time horse player and in years past when a vendor offered his product with a 60 day free trial and free data everyone and his brother would be all over the offer. The vendor mentioned the response has not been great. Is it because the software has been around a while and people have already tried it or the database aspect, or what? In the past many people would take advantage of a offer like this and then comment on it. Times have changed I guess.

No, I did not take advantage of the offer as it is not my kind of handicapping tool--I no longer spend the time that I use to handicapping.

Just wondering.
I think one problem is Norton blocking the download. That scares people to some extent... I had trouble downloading it even after disabling Norton, but it works fine now .
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Old 03-21-2015, 01:37 PM   #36
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My OOP(order of preference)

9, 2, 8, 1

Wheel for tri = 9, 2 / 9, 2, 8 / 9, 2, 8, 1 $1 play = $8

Wheel for xta = 9, 2 / 9, 2, 8, 1 $1 play = $6
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Old 03-21-2015, 03:04 PM   #37
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Once you get past Norton, there doesn't appear to be any blocking of QuickHorse's access of data, or updates from its FILE Menu Bar. According to Norton, after we contacted them, our download is supposed to removed from or added to whatever list they maintain which says its OK. The problem is, I believe, that each time we update the software (and we're nearly ready to do that), then that update isn't "certified" by their holy ministers of what is good for you internet wise.

Anyway, Norton only seems to have a market share of about 8% versus Comcast's 40% of the ISP Market, so doesn't appear that Comcast users are downloading it in droves. I use Comcast but didn't know about the free subscription to Norton until this issue cropped up with QuickHorse.

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Old 03-21-2015, 09:37 PM   #38
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We do offer retrials of the software as long as the free trial hasn't been used recently.

I got an email a while ago asking what the pricing parameters were for the software.

The subscription pricing begins at $90/year and is for the software subscription. Our data is free to all users of QuickHorse but it can also use data that can be purchased at Brisnet.

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Old 03-21-2015, 10:55 PM   #39
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The printout from Gulfstream Race 6 seems odd to me. There is an odds line in a 10 horse race that varies from 7-1 to 14-1. There are 4 horses in there that have almost no chance..actual odds from 50 to 100 to 1 and ran like it.

Is that just because of the method the poster used or do other ways of using the program give a more variable (realistic) oddsline? That's something I really like in a program. Thanks.
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Old 03-22-2015, 06:30 AM   #40
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The printout from Gulfstream Race 6 seems odd to me. There is an odds line in a 10 horse race that varies from 7-1 to 14-1. There are 4 horses in there that have almost no chance..actual odds from 50 to 100 to 1 and ran like it.

Is that just because of the method the poster used or do other ways of using the program give a more variable (realistic) oddsline? That's something I really like in a program. Thanks.
It is just the method. I tend to have higher morning lines. If you want to build a method that would think like the morning line maker, you could do that.
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Old 03-22-2015, 01:42 PM   #41
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Once you get past Norton, there doesn't appear to be any blocking of QuickHorse's access of data, or updates from its FILE Menu Bar. According to Norton, after we contacted them, our download is supposed to removed from or added to whatever list they maintain which says its OK. The problem is, I believe, that each time we update the software (and we're nearly ready to do that), then that update isn't "certified" by their holy ministers of what is good for you internet wise.

Anyway, Norton only seems to have a market share of about 8% versus Comcast's 40% of the ISP Market, so doesn't appear that Comcast users are downloading it in droves. I use Comcast but didn't know about the free subscription to Norton until this issue cropped up with QuickHorse.

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Is Norton the only software that attempts to block the initial download of QuickHorse? If so I will leave them when my subscription expires this year.
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Old 03-23-2015, 01:54 PM   #42
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The only report with QuickHorse has been Norton. We did have an issue with AVAST deleting some of our software after installing it with our QuickDog product.

When these products first came out they would always ask the user if he/she knew what he/she was doing and giving an option. Now with some of them they simply make the decision for you. I don't know if this has something to do with large corporation pressure to limit employees to cut down on the possibility of a hack or not on corporate networks.

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Old 03-23-2015, 01:57 PM   #43
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Another answer regarding the formulation of the Odds Line is that its simply the product of the algorithm we use. And we're always looking for user provided algorithms if possible. The user has the option of selecting a final score for each horse (lowest is best), or the odds line value which takes these final scores, applies the algorithm, and comes up with these odds.

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Old 03-28-2015, 04:57 PM   #44
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Since our Free 60 day trial ends at the end of March, I wanted to take an opportunity to thank the forum for looking over the QuickHorse software. I received some helpful comments and many new free trial users during the last two months.

Remember we do still provide a lengthy 30 day trial after March 31, and also that you can opt to use DRF files with QuickHorse although our software includes our free data and up to 5 years of our free data to begin with. QuickHorse does use historical data to predict future races.

Our 60 day pace advantage users free trial can be found here -

http://www.quickreckoning.com/pa_offer.htm

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I signed up March 9th through the PA link but was only given a 30 day trial ?

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