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Is that all you have? None of it presents any "insolvable problem."
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Did the myths of Hercules, Mirtha, Donyis result in bringing great harm to the people who originated those myths, ...
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They brought great harm to the people who
believed those myths. The great book burning which followed the adoption of Christianity as the official Roman religion included all non-Christian books. (Jewish writings were probably considered Christian.)
The penalty for possession of such books was death. Copies of Homer and the Greek plays such as
Oedipus Rex,
Agamemnon, etc. survive today because there were copies in Persia (beyond the Roman Empire) but the great majority are lost. It's as though today we know that Shakespeare wrote
The Merry Wives of Windsor and
MacBeth, but we have no copies of
Hamlet,
Julias Caesar,
Othello, etc.
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... as did the Jesus "myth" result in great harm to the Jews?
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Did it cause great harm to the Jews? Greater than the harm Rome inflected on just about everyone who was not of the Roman nobility? What is your source for that claim?
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Can you prove that money and power motivated the anonymous ancient writers. You're making the claim. The burden of proof is on you.
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My claim is that such a scenario does not create an "insolvable problem." If you're going to quote me then try not to distort what I say.
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And you need to address the issue of why Jews would create a myth that they knew would result in bringing great harm to their fellow Jews.
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The Jews did not create the myth. The Christians did. Jews and Christians are not the same thing.
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Finally, you make the claim that Jesus never existed. You need to prove that as well.
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See the works of Bruno Bauer, G.A. Wells, Kenneth Humphreys, etc., etc., etc.
In any case the resurrection claim is almost 2000 years old, if not older. The burden of proof lies with the Christians.
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Your dumb theory doesn't pass the sniff test of Occam's Razor.
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Are you seriously saying that someone coming back to life is a simpler explanation than that the whole story is made up? That's real gullibility. Do you think Elvis is alive too? That NASA faked the moon landings? That the Earth is flat?
If someone claimed that Elvis rose from the dead, and their evidence for that is that there are witnesses whom they cannot name, would you believe it?
Your claim is that any scenario counter to Christian propaganda presents "insolvable problems." The burden of proof is yours. So far you have presented none.