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Old 11-30-2023, 06:12 PM   #16
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Race 2 in about 15 min...


what do we know?

R1_Winner = $5 horse w/ w stong connections. the projeced doubles should be insighful;


so in race #2 we start with considered and/or as legit 'key' possibilities
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Old 11-30-2023, 06:29 PM   #17
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making dinner. Wanted to find 3 mid or more player with same style s the in race 2. I thin he is in tri. with mosly similar styles.

we;lll see
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Old 11-30-2023, 06:39 PM   #18
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Turfway

I've made very few bets at Turfway over the years, but Im going to take a shot and try to hit some of those big longshots this meet. I'll post them for free on my website.
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Old 11-30-2023, 07:29 PM   #19
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idea for race 5 for the super toss 5, 9 ,11 ,12

ke 3 in one place by himself and key 348 to be 3 of four super finsihers toss the 5,9 ,11 12 from the other slot

really only 3rd or 4th.


ruhningg styles next think to incorporate
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Old 11-30-2023, 09:26 PM   #20
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Well, a late double seems in order.

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Old 11-30-2023, 10:39 PM   #21
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Results:

Race #9 = 4-8-10-1-2 = EX – TRI & SUPER BX / All of that one!

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POS	#	Horse	               Win	Place	Show
1st:	4	Egyptian Candy	$6.74	$3.42	$2.46
2nd:	8	C'est Cheese		       $4.86	$3.34
3rd:	10	Sierra Sky			       $2.60
4th:	1	Its Satisfactual			
5th:	2	Golden Storm			
•	$2.00 EXACTA 4-8 $43.68
•	$2.00 TRIFECTA 4-8-10 $105.68
•	$2.00 SUPERFECTA 4-8-10-1 $472.00
 
Hey Nitro, the part I don’t understand, is that you pick 2 horses over three for your exacta, so you are betting these and reversing the exacts to hit your bet. Then for your tri and super you are boxing everyone to hit your tickets. You are laying out $648 to hit three tickets that payout 621.38, so the only way you are getting all of this one, is if you are a whale and playing for rebates. Otherwise, you are blowing your brains out every race, and you must have a big bankroll to make bets like this all day long.
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Old 12-01-2023, 12:17 AM   #22
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Hey Nitro, the part I don’t understand, is that you pick 2 horses over three for your exacta, so you are betting these and reversing the exacts to hit your bet. Then for your tri and super you are boxing everyone to hit your tickets. You are laying out $648 to hit three tickets that payout 621.38, so the only way you are getting all of this one, is if you are a whale and playing for rebates. Otherwise, you are blowing your brains out every race, and you must have a big bankroll to make bets like this all day long.
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Race #9 = 4-8-10-1-2 = EX – TRI & SUPER BX / All of that one!

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POS	#	Horse	               Win	Place	Show
1st:	4	Egyptian Candy	$6.74	$3.42	$2.46
2nd:	8	C'est Cheese		       $4.86	$3.34
3rd:	10	Sierra Sky			       $2.60
4th:	1	Its Satisfactual			
5th:	2	Golden Storm			
•	$2.00 EXACTA 4-8 $43.68
•	$2.00 TRIFECTA 4-8-10 $105.68
•	$2.00 SUPERFECTA 4-8-10-1 $472.00
 
Apparently, you’re not following or familiar with the basic procedures for structuring Vertical bets when you have 2 Key entries. At least these are my general techniques which use the Keys in both the Win & Place positions:

Exacta Box: 7 w/8-10-4-1 = 8 bets & 8 w/10-4-1 = 6 bets
Total $2 bets = 14 = $28 = Profit = $15.68

Triple Box – 7 / 8-10-4-1/8-10-4-1 =12 bets & 8-10-4-1 / 7 / 8-10-4-1 = 12 bets
Triple Box – 8 / 10-4-1 / 10-4-1 = 6 bets & 10-4-1 / 8 / 10-4-1 = 6 bets
Total $2 bets = 36 = $72 = Profit = $33.68

Super Box – 7 / 8-10-4-1 / 8-10-4-1 / 8-10-4-1 = 24 bets & 8-10-4-1 / 7 / 8-10-4-1 / 8-10-4-1 = 24 bets
Super Box - 8 / 10-4-1 / 10-4-1 / 10-4-1 = 6 bets & 10-4-1 / 8 / 10-4-1 / 10-4-1 = 6 bets
Total $2 bets = 60 = $120 = Profit = $352.00

Just because I posted the results of each type of Vertical play doesn’t mean that I played them all. I simply indicated what the potential results were had any one of them were selected.
(But if you did decide to use above betting structure for all the Verticals the Total Profit would have been - $401.36)

Also, when playing the Super even if you used each of the 2 Keys into the Show position as well the boxed betting would be as follows:
7 / 8-10-4-1 / 8-10-4-1 / 8-10-4-1 = 24 bets &
8-10-4-1 / 7 / 8-10-4-1 / 8-10-4-1 = 24 bets &
8-10-4-1 / 8-10-4-1 / 7 / 8-10-4-1 = 24 bets
8 / 10-4-1 / 10-4-1 / 10-4-1 = 6 bets &
10-4-1 / 8 / 10-4-1 / 10-4-1 = 6 bets &
10-4-1 / 10-4-1 / 8/ 10-4-1 = 6 bets
Total $2 bets = 90 = $180 = Profit = $292.00

Let me know if you need any additional help with structuring Vertical bets when you’re using 2 Key entries.
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Old 12-01-2023, 05:51 PM   #23
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fri post 5:55

day3 3 of the meet going to attempt to mention some fundamentals, low hanging fruits.
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Old 12-01-2023, 05:57 PM   #24
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r1 the 11 is a an obvious key. no price however.
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Old 12-01-2023, 05:59 PM   #25
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$75W to start the night.

Could be some craziness afoot on a Friday evening.
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Old 12-01-2023, 06:33 PM   #26
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Churchill shipper over Churchill shippers for $1 is a / for a $2 ticket that returns nearly $780.
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Old 12-01-2023, 07:17 PM   #27
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r4 #1 is interesting for hot connections, but price is poor.


another hard-hitter in this race is the 10 would have to waste horse wide into a pace to really eliminate himself and boost value, too advanced for me right now,
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Old 12-01-2023, 07:37 PM   #28
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are the horses that lead to a P5 carryover into the late P5 which obviously starts in the same race.

If you are looking to 'dip' into the carryover, do you include all 3?
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Old 12-02-2023, 09:17 AM   #29
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First obvious thing is don't bet early....

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Old 12-15-2023, 11:48 AM   #30
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Late P5 Carryover of $118,541 should spice up tonight's pot a bit in which the P5s have already been paying quite handsomely this meet.
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