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09-05-2016, 09:18 PM
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Saratoga P-5
So someone hits P5 for $560k during second day of this experimental 3-day trial? What a coincidence?
I want to know what affiliation the winner has to NYRA or to racing!
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09-06-2016, 03:38 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
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The winner is the head track super at NYRA, and also the NYRA steward, and also Andy Serling, who deliberately gave out totally different picks on the air so as to not kill his ticket.
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09-06-2016, 03:52 PM
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Location: Youngstown, Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
The winner is the head track super at NYRA, and also the NYRA steward, and also Andy Serling, who deliberately gave out totally different picks on the air so as to not kill his ticket.
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Good one! The negativity here recently is mind boggling. Haters hating on jockeys, trainers, announcers, easy prey TVG, and even a whole thread lashing out at tellers. Don't know how you deal with it. Make everyone take a "time-out" by shutting down a few days might work.
RR
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09-06-2016, 04:20 PM
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The hits keep coming!
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09-06-2016, 04:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
The winner is the head track super at NYRA, and also the NYRA steward, and also Andy Serling, who deliberately gave out totally different picks on the air so as to not kill his ticket.
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That wouldn't surprise me at all. NYSE killed the uptick rule right before stock market crash late in 2007, so the fact that NYRA brings in P5 a day or two before someone hits it for $560k is also no coincidence.
I view racing as a market and since all markets are rigged(thank you NY and London) why would it surprise me.
Similarly hedge funds and investment firms are notorious for giving out contrarian opinion so why would A. S give out any information that's useful?
On two Songbird's NYRA races, he lobbied against her and thinks that all she beat was bunch of tomato cans! On the other hand he thought that Frosted was a super horse who deservedly got some astronomical Beyer only to lose to bunch of tomato cans no better than allowance types in probably one of the weakest Woodward fields.
I hope that NYRA never brings back P5, it'll only reduces P4 pools and allows syndicates with some non-public knowledge to scoop up general public bets.
Note that 15% takeout on P5 does not benefit average horse bettor just like 15% tax rate paid on investment income only benefits hedge fund types.
So while you think you are being facetious in your reply to me, you are also very much correct!
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09-06-2016, 04:28 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by linrom1
That wouldn't surprise me at all. NYSE killed the uptick rule right before stock market crash late in 2007, so the fact that NYRA brings in P5 a day or two before someone hits it for $560k is also no coincidence.
I view racing as a market and since all markets are rigged(thank you NY and London) why would it surprise me.
Similarly hedge funds and investment firms are notorious for giving out contrarian opinion so why would A. S give out any information that's useful?
On two Songbird's NYRA races, he lobbied against her and thinks that all she beat was bunch of tomato cans! On the other hand he thought that Frosted was a super horse who deservedly got some astronomical Beyer only to lose to bunch of tomato cans no better than allowance types in probably one of the weakest Woodward fields.
I hope that NYRA never brings back P5, it'll only reduces P4 pools and allows syndicates with some non-public knowledge to scoop up general public bets.
Note that 15% takeout on P5 does not benefit average horse bettor just like 15% tax rate paid on investment income only benefits hedge fund types.
So while you think you are being facetious in your reply to me, you are also very much correct!
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If there was a Hall of Fame for ridiculous posts on this board, this would be a first ballot candidate.
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09-06-2016, 04:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NTamm1215
If there was a Hall of Fame for ridiculous posts on this board, this would be a first ballot candidate.
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Is it true that you and Travis took down one of these p5's? Just curious, not looking to add any fuel
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09-06-2016, 06:40 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rsetup
Is it true that you and Travis took down one of these p5's? Just curious, not looking to add any fuel
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Yes, that is correct.
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09-06-2016, 06:45 PM
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NoPoints4ME
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09-06-2016, 08:46 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
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Thanks! Was a great sequence to have good opinions and get a little lucky.
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09-06-2016, 09:04 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Yes, that is correct.
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Way to go!!
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09-06-2016, 09:19 PM
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#12
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 7,510
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
The winner is the head track super at NYRA, and also the NYRA steward, and also Andy Serling, who deliberately gave out totally different picks on the air so as to not kill his ticket.
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The bet is three days old and already a conspiracy theorist has come from under a rock to bestow upon us his wisdom.....
Oy vey....
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09-06-2016, 09:25 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 7,510
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Quote:
Originally Posted by linrom1
That wouldn't surprise me at all. NYSE killed the uptick rule right before stock market crash late in 2007, so the fact that NYRA brings in P5 a day or two before someone hits it for $560k is also no coincidence.
I view racing as a market and since all markets are rigged(thank you NY and London) why would it surprise me.
Similarly hedge funds and investment firms are notorious for giving out contrarian opinion so why would A. S give out any information that's useful?
On two Songbird's NYRA races, he lobbied against her and thinks that all she beat was bunch of tomato cans! On the other hand he thought that Frosted was a super horse who deservedly got some astronomical Beyer only to lose to bunch of tomato cans no better than allowance types in probably one of the weakest Woodward fields.
I hope that NYRA never brings back P5, it'll only reduces P4 pools and allows syndicates with some non-public knowledge to scoop up general public bets.
Note that 15% takeout on P5 does not benefit average horse bettor just like 15% tax rate paid on investment income only benefits hedge fund types.
So while you think you are being facetious in your reply to me, you are also very much correct!
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Ok....All markets are rigged? IN favor or against whom?
if you think the market here is rigged, then why on Earth do you subject yourself to such misery by having so much as a scintilla of interest in horse racing?...or are you one of these people who participates in an activity just to have something to complain about?
I'd tell you to shut up, but that may ruffle the feathers of PA and CJ so, I won't. I have much respect for those two individuals to risk drawing their ire and continue posting to you.
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09-06-2016, 09:33 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 7,510
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Thanks! Was a great sequence to have good opinions and get a little lucky.
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I was astonished anyone could come with that ticket
23-1, 15-1, 6/5( ok I would imagine Mexican Gold was a single)22-1 and 13-1.....Amazing,
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09-06-2016, 10:35 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thespaah
I was astonished anyone could come with that ticket
23-1, 15-1, 6/5( ok I would imagine Mexican Gold was a single)22-1 and 13-1.....Amazing,
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That sequence was impossible. I hit on Saturday.
The group I play with was 3-3 on Sunday, but there was absolutely no way I could have ever had the 11th and 12th winners on the same ticket.
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