Global Warming, Make That Climate Change Yeah

[jimmyb]

Originally Posted by hcap

Why did you miss this? How come?
https://polarbearsinternational.org/...d-polar-bears/

And......

Polar bear population to decline by a third by 2050: study
https://globalnews.ca/news/3112257/p....google.com%2F

Polar bear numbers could drop by a third by mid-century due to disappearing Arctic sea ice owing to climate change, a comprehensive new study has found.

The current global population of polar bears is estimated to be around 26,000. The bears use the ice as a platform to hunt seals, the fat-rich prey they depend on to get through the long Arctic winter.Researchers said there’s a 70 per cent chance the population will shrink by a third; there’s a chance, but a lower probability, the population could decline by 50 per cent by 2050.

The reseachers’ projections were made using statistical models and computer simulations, using 35 years of satellite data.

How come you missed all of this?

Their categories go like this...


1.Least concerned
2.Near threatened
3.Vulnerable
4.Endangered
5.Critically endangered
6.Extinct in the wild
7.Extinct


They were downgraded from being endangered to being vulnerable, certainly going in the right direction.


How did you miss this?

[Tom]

We will ALL be extinct someday.

How did miss THIS?

btw, THANKS Jimmy for providing FACTS for a change in this thread.
All in BLACK and WHITE!

[46zilzal]

Originally Posted by hcap

How come you missed all of this?

Only looking for confirmation bias, not reality...

[jimmyb]

Originally Posted by Tom

We will ALL be extinct someday.

How did miss THIS?

btw, THANKS Jimmy for providing FACTS for a change in this thread.
All in BLACK and WHITE!

Polar Bears and Alligators have a lot in common. American Alligators were once on the endangered species list. Today, more than one million alligators can be found throughout Florida, Texas, Louisiana, and Georgia. Through a number of different conservation efforts, the American alligator thrives once again today. When you visit the Everglades, you will come face to face with the Everglades alligator – a thrilling and unforgettable experience.


Polar bears in some areas were severely over-hunted in the past when trophy hunters utilized light aircraft and large motorized vessels to go into the ice to catch bears in large numbers. The introduction of high-powered rifles and snowmobiles also increased the ability of local Native people to kill polar bears. Aerial and ship-based trophy hunting was banned by international agreement in the mid 1970s.



Because of conservation measures the alligators are no longer endangered. Since Conservation steps taken to protect the Polar Bears. the Bears have seen an estimated 10,000 in 1970 to 50,000. This was as of 2015.


It's likely that had climate change been in vogue in the 50's, the climate fear mongers would have blamed climate rather than over hunting for the dwindling Alligator population.


Not unlike the Alligator, trophy hunting was likely the cause of dwindling Polar Bear numbers. The years and the conservation numbers bear (pardon the pun) that out.


The same held true for the Florida Tarpon, it is not a good eating fish but it is big and puts up a hell of a fight. They were overfished and kept, but not until conservation was put into place did their numbers come back.



If only we had Al Gore back in the 50's and 1970. We'd of had a convenient scapegoat in climate change.



"Lots of snow in Massachusetts = climate change". "A mild winter in Massachusetts = climate change". "A rainy summer in Massachusetts = climate change". " Dry summer and drought in Massachusetts = climate change". " The riots in watts, you guessed it = climate change". ( I understand it was very hot) Yup, climate is always changing. Like Forrest Gump and his box of chocolates, you never know what your going to get.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by jimmyb

Their categories go like this...
1.Least concerned
2.Near threatened
3.Vulnerable
4.Endangered
5.Critically endangered
6.Extinct in the wild
7.Extinct

They were downgraded from being endangered to being vulnerable, certainly going in the right direction.

How did you miss this?

Got a reliable source of your 1-7? You seem to editorialize quite a bit. But your facts are slim

You started off with
your incorrect IUCN statement...

Originally Posted by You

The Polar Bear Catastrophe that Never Happened. IUCN red list says there are more polar bears alive today than at anytime in the last 50 years. Estimates are 40,000, up from 10,000 or fewer in the '60's.

I found just the opposite same source. And at least I provided a link.

https://polarbearsinternational.org/...d-polar-bears/
A study by IUCN (International Union for Conservation of Nature) predicts a dramatic reduction in polar bear habitats over the next 10 to 50 years, due largely to global warming.

The IUCN Polar Bear Specialist Group lists the polar bear as a vulnerable species, citing sea ice loss from climate change as the single biggest threat to their survival. The most recent study (Hamilton & Derocher, 2018)* estimates there are currently about 23,000 polar bears worldwide. But without action on climate change, we could see dramatic declines in polar bear numbers by mid-century.

Look you found sources, I found sources. They appear to be at odds. So wee can argue which is correct for quite a while. However you ignored my reality check to you.....

Originally Posted by Me

AGW has melted sea ice and decimated their natural food.
Can't believe you gents would believe polar bears losing their natural habitat their population would be increasing.

Think about that

Why would the polar bear population increase if their habitat is rapidly decreasing?

Researchers Warn Arctic Has Entered 'Unprecedented State' That Threatens Global Climate Stability
https://www.desmogblog.com/2019/04/0...mate-stability

A new research paper by American and European climate scientists focused on Arctic warming published Monday reveals that the “smoking gun” when it comes to changes in the world's northern polar region is rapidly warming air temperatures that are having — and will continue to have — massive and negative impacts across the globe.

The new paper — titled “Key Indicators of Arctic Climate Change: 1971–2017” — is the work of scientists at the International Arctic Research Center at the University of Alaska Fairbanks and the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland in Copenhagen (GUES).

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[woodtoo]

While millions sleep in peace, Negative Nellie types her endless drivel. When will she become truly extinct?

[Tom]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

While millions sleep in peace, Negative Nellie types her endless drivel. When will she become truly extinct?

1969.

[jimmyb]

Originally Posted by hcap;2518807[B

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Polar bear numbers could drop by a third by mid-century due to disappearing Arctic sea ice owing to climate change, a comprehensive new study has found.


How come you missed all of this?

Hunt Polar Bears in the Arctic North



These hunts are conducted from the community of Grise Fiord, which has a high harvest quota of Polar Bears.


Along with high success rates and good trophy quality, this 12 day hunt in the Arctic is sure to be one of your most memorable. Along with that, the Inuit culture itself is an unforgettable experience.


Hunting is still an important part of the lifestyle of the mostly Inuit population. Quota systems allow the villagers to supply many of their needs from populations of seals, walruses, narwhal and beluga whales, polar bears and musk oxen. Ecotourism is developing as people come to see the spectacular northern wildlife found on Ellesmere and surrounding islands.



In Grise Fiord there are two seasons: the "light" season from May to August, when the sun never sets, and the "dark" season from October to mid-February, when the sun never rises. For 10 months of the year, the sea around Grise Fiord is frozen;


https://www.ameri-cana.com/north-american-hunting/canadian-arctic-polar-bear-hunt/

[hcap]

Originally Posted by jimmyb

Hunt Polar Bears in the Arctic North

These hunts are conducted from the community of Grise Fiord, which has a high harvest quota of Polar Bears.

Along with high success rates and good trophy quality, this 12 day hunt in the Arctic is sure to be one of your most memorable. Along with that, the Inuit culture itself is an unforgettable experience.

Hunting is still an important part of the lifestyle of the mostly Inuit population. Quota systems allow the villagers to supply many of their needs from populations of seals, walruses, narwhal and beluga whales, polar bears and musk oxen. Ecotourism is developing as people come to see the spectacular northern wildlife found on Ellesmere and surrounding islands.

In Grise Fiord there are two seasons: the "light" season from May to August, when the sun never sets, and the "dark" season from October to mid-February, when the sun never rises. For 10 months of the year, the sea around Grise Fiord is frozen;


https://www.ameri-cana.com/north-american-hunting/canadian-arctic-polar-bear-hunt/

So I post data from respected scientific non-commercial websites discussing the entire Arctic melting and glaziers disappearing and, you post a polar bear hunting, rather disturbing advertisement claiming their hunting is top notch

You can't be serious!

[Tom]

Quota systems allow the villagers to supply many of their needs from populations of seals, walruses, narwhal and beluga whales, polar bears and musk oxen.

RIF.

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by hcap

So I post data from respected scientific non-commercial websites discussing the entire Arctic melting and glaziers disappearing and, you post a polar bear hunting, rather disturbing advertisement claiming their hunting is top notch

You can't be serious!

You would rather the natives to be extinct. You cant be serious.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

You would rather the natives to be extinct. You cant be serious.

Hey man, it is global warming - people got to realize they are expendable!

[jimmyb]

This is what global warming looks like in the Arctic

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Someone said I melted.

pristine-arctic-environment.jpg


Someone told me the ocean isn't frozen

polar-bears-in-the-arctic.jpg

[reckless]

... since climate change is the most existential threat to the survival of the world, you must believe serious action is needed right now, if not sooner. Agree? I'd say yes.

Many respected scientists have told us that the earth's two biggest polluters of our environment are China and India. Agree? I'd say yes.

Most of the Democrats running for President have promised to make global warming/climate change a major priority of their administration. Agree? I'd say yes.

Do you believe if a Democrat wins in 2020, he/she should declare war on both China and India since these two countries are the biggest threat to the survival of our world?

Would you support going to war over climate change?

[jimmyb]

His recent trip proves climate change.


Embarks on his trip
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After a trip to his newly remodeled bathroom.

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Miami

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on the streets of Honolulu

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The yukon in February

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