Iran puts its foot down, in the water

[Tom]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

So Iran is secretly keeping nukes? Despite nobody on the planet saying that? But they can't even find out if they work? Because of sanctions? And they have no intentions of using them offensively? And they can't use them as a deterrent? But they still have them?

That makes no ****ing sense except in the wild minds of conspiracists.

Trump says they don't have them. Is he a liar?

See, that is what I have saying all day - you have no clue what yo are talking about - again. YOU said PA ignored your question, I said he did not, that he gave you an answer, a reasonable possibility YOU then totally got lost and posted more BS not related to anything. You really need to hire someone to read these posts to you and explain them. You are making yourself look foolish.

[Tom]

Iran wants nukes because of the "Axis of Evil" speech and because the United States invaded and occupied two of its neighbors.

They ARE part of the axis of evil.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Tom

See, that is what I have saying all day - you have no clue what yo are talking about - again. YOU said PA ignored your question, I said he did not, that he gave you an answer, a reasonable possibility YOU then totally got lost and posted more BS not related to anything. You really need to hire someone to read these posts to you and explain them. You are making yourself look foolish.

I tossed it because its not a reasonable possibility.

You gotta come stronger than:

Iran already has nukes.

lulz

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Tom

They ARE part of the axis of evil.

We should probably bomb them for shooting down our shit then huh?

Oh wait you're a Trump supporter... well then... wait for him to tell you what you think then I guess...

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

I'm not always right but this stuff isn't quantum mechanics.

Deterrence is deterrence and the rules of brinksmanship haven't changed the past 2.5 years AFAIK.

You're asking me to believe Iran has spent over a decade pissing off the international community at great harm to itself. To then acquire the weapon and CHOOSE not to leverage its existence for any tactical or strategic or economic purpose whatsoever.

Makes no sense.

This is Dr. Strangelove stuff... if you have it you tell everyone.

Maybe there's a reason why we haven't bombed them, besides your tried and true "Trump the Chickenhawk."

Just like there was a reason we didn't go and bomb NK.

Not everything can or should be in the public domain.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Maybe there's a reason why we haven't bombed them, besides your tried and true "Trump the Chickenhawk.".

If the reason is Iran has the bomb Trump probably shouldn't go around telling everyone they'll never get it.

That's one helluva future self-own.

Face it... what you're saying doesn't hold up to even modest scrutiny.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

We should probably bomb them for shooting down our shit then huh?

Oh wait you're a Trump supporter... well then... wait for him to tell you what you think then I guess...

Bottom line here, YOU are in denial of anything you don't understand.
And brother, THAT is a a LOT of stuff!

[elysiantraveller]

"Sanctions are killing Iran," the Trumpist says..

Europe Circumvents U.S. Sanctions On Iran

The next thing they say is America's role in the world isn't diminished under Trump...

Trump's administration will be remembered in history as the one which accelerated American decline at the world stage and paved the way towards a multi-polar 21st Century.

[Tom]

What planet are you from again?

[elysiantraveller]

Iran will increase uranium enrichment to whatever levels it needs: Rouhani

Replacing something with nothing for the win...

Centrifuges start really spinning in days.

[Tom]

I love watching you flounder here, not understanding what is going on.
And flip-flopping on N Korea in another thread!

[incoming]

I think the best way to describe ely is one of the worst cases of TDS, with a tinge of PMS!!

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Tom

I love watching you flounder here, not understanding what is going on.

What's going on is:

Iran is going to begin enrichment beyond reactor levels.

Iran has targeted international shipping and shot down American aircraft.

Europe is attempting to circumvent the dollar to help Iran and weaken the US.

Trump wants to talk to Iran and they're completely ignoring him.

So much #winning amirite?

But keep telling yourself "those sanctions are really working... Iran is going to back down... <checks watch>... any day now... they're really working!"

Originally Posted by Tom

And flip-flopping on N Korea in another thread!

How did I flip-flop on North Korea?

By just ignoring them I could have accomplished nothing as well... just without;

Two splashy yet ineffective summits.
Legitimizing the Regime.
Telling the American people I "fell in love" with a brutal dictator.
Suspending joint exercises.
Losing some of the international pressure I already enjoyed.

You're defending the person who said he "fell in love" with Kim... and has nothing to show for it...

Jokes...

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Iran will increase uranium enrichment to whatever levels it needs: Rouhani

Replacing something with nothing for the win...

Centrifuges start really spinning in days.

Maybe Iran will host a parade, complete with tanks, to mark this momentous accomplishment.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Maybe Iran will host a parade, complete with tanks, to mark this momentous accomplishment.

No, they're busy trolling the absolute shit out of the White House...

https://twitter.com/hesamodin1/status/1146341845833834496

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Last edited by elysiantraveller; 07-03-2019 at 07:05 PM.