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07-27-2022, 08:20 PM
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Jockeys' Guild, LAHBPA Say Members Not Subject to HISA
The Jockeys' Guild and the Louisiana Horsemen's Benevolent and Protective Association said July 27 that their members are not subject to rules of the Horseracing Integrity and Safety Authority in any racing jurisdiction in the United States. HISA categorically disagreed except for jurisdictions in Louisiana and West Virginia.
The dispute centers on language in the order entered by U.S. District Court Judge Terry A. Doughty, who wrote that the geographic scope of the injunction is limited to the States of Louisiana and West Virginia, "and as to all Plaintiffs in this proceeding,"
The day after Doughty's order, Jockeys' Guild general counsel Kate Swearengen said in a release the language means all members of the Jockeys' Guild are shielded by the order throughout the U.S.
Shortly after the Jockeys' Guild statement was released, LAHBPA executive director Ed Fenasci said in a release none of its approximately 5,000 members are subject to HISA rules in any jurisdiction, either.
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https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...ubject-to-hisa
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07-27-2022, 09:39 PM
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#122
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Just another Facist
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Its funny when the government starts moving against organized crime
The lawyers come out
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07-29-2022, 12:18 AM
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Is this why Lone Star hasn't been providing race replays to TVG since 7/1?
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07-29-2022, 06:39 AM
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we are all missing a great meet at Lone Star now, maybe they are closed now. i wound up betting a few races with an offshore book that only took the place for a few days. it wasn't that good for me because i like to see the horses in the paddock and on the track before the race.
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07-29-2022, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ultracapper
Is this why Lone Star hasn't been providing race replays to TVG since 7/1?
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Effective July 1st, the Texas Racing Commission stripped Lone Star Park's ability to export their signal for simulcasting due to the on-going dispute over HISA. Race wagering was restricted to on-track, other Texas tracks, and selected international sites. For the month of July, average daily handle dropped to about $300,000 per day, not nearly sufficient to cover their purse structure. Longer term impacts remain to be seen, but could be severe.
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07-29-2022, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
we are all missing a great meet at Lone Star now, maybe they are closed now.
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The meet closed on Sunday, July 24th.
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07-29-2022, 12:29 PM
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#127
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if there is anything in life that i have learned, DONT MESS WITH TEXAS
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07-29-2022, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
we are all missing a great meet at Lone Star now, maybe they are closed now. i wound up betting a few races with an offshore book that only took the place for a few days. it wasn't that good for me because i like to see the horses in the paddock and on the track before the race.
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Just as another plug for RTN (especially with what's happening with TVG) - Lone Star was available live streamed through the end of the meet, and all the replays are available. If you have any kind of decent internet, IMO it is the best $15/month you can spend on a horseracing product.
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Past performances are no guarantee of future results. - Why isn't this disclaimer printed in the Daily Racing Form?
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07-29-2022, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BarchCapper
Just as another plug for RTN (especially with what's happening with TVG) - Lone Star was available live streamed through the end of the meet, and all the replays are available. If you have any kind of decent internet, IMO it is the best $15/month you can spend on a horseracing product.
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07-29-2022, 06:47 PM
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#130
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Join Date: Dec 2001
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The CHRB emailed out the following advisory earlier today:
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ADVISORY REGARDING HISA COMPLIANCE
Unless and until a federal court clarifies an earlier ruling by indicating otherwise, the California Horse Racing Board will continue to honor its agreement with the Horseracing Integrity and Safety Authority by enforcing HISA safety rules, including the rules covering use of the riding crop, as the CHRB has been doing since HISA rules went into effect on July 1. California stewards are notifying all thoroughbred jockeys in the state of this decision.
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07-29-2022, 09:02 PM
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#131
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HISA Appeals Injunction, But Judge Says No to Reversing Earlier Order
In the aftermath of a federal judge's ruling earlier this week that will keep the Horseracing Integrity and Safety Act (HISA) rules from going into effect in Louisiana and West Virginia while a lawsuit challenging those regulations is pending, the HISA Authority responded Friday with a series of legal actions that attempt to both reverse and clarify that injunction order.
The most significant of the July 29 filings from the HISA Authority defendants was a notice that they are appealing Judge Terry Doughty's July 26 decision to grant a preliminary injunction to the plaintiffs, who are led by the states of Louisiana and West Virginia, plus the Jockeys' Guild. This new appeal will be heard by the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit.
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https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.co...earlier-order/
There was also this news today regarding HISA
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HISA Amends Hind Shoe Rules After Meeting with Horsemen
The Horseracing Integrity and Safety Authority announced July 29 that enforcement of certain aspects of its horseshoe rules would not be enforced when the rule is enacted Aug. 1. Specifically, enforcement shall not apply to horses racing on dirt surfaces that are shod on the hindlimbs with traction devices of either a full outer rim shoe or a toe grab up to four millimeters in height.
The rule change followed a July 19 meeting in Saratoga Springs, N.Y., between the HISA Safety Committee and the Thoroughbred Horsemen's Association board of directors, and representatives of the Kentucky Thoroughbred Association, Thoroughbred Owners and Breeders Association, and Thoroughbred Owners of California. Among the short-term and long-term issues discussed was the shoe rule, which has generated significant concern among horsemen for its potential to negatively affect the safety and welfare of horses, according to THA.
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https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...-with-horsemen
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08-01-2022, 04:46 PM
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#132
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Fourth lawsuit filed against HISA
A fourth lawsuit was filed against the Horseracing Integrity and Safety Act by Global Gaming LSP, LLC, who are the owners of Lone Star Park, Gulf Coast Racing LLC, LRP Group LTD, and Valle de los Tesoros LTD in the federal district court for the Northern District of Texas Amarillo Division on Friday (July 29).
The plaintiffs also filed a request for a temporary injunction.
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https://ustrottingnews.com/fourth-la...-against-hisa/
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08-02-2022, 12:44 AM
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#133
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Originally Posted by Al Gobbi
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They're picking small districts with conservative judges who repeatedly ignore US Supreme Court precedent in these suits. It's a garbage legal strategy, though it has worked in some high profile cases for other litigants.
This is all futile in the end- as I said, it's perfectly obvious Congress has the power to do this. But we have to wait out the clown show for a few months.
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08-02-2022, 06:37 AM
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Just Deplorable
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lebanon, Ohio
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The Clown Show is HISA itself, clearly not ready for Prime Time.
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08-02-2022, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rastajenk
The Clown Show is HISA itself, clearly not ready for Prime Time.
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Even if you think it is a bad statute, it is clearly constitutional for Congress to do this.
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