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Old 03-18-2024, 03:59 PM   #16
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So diabetes is a dumb ass disease?
And everyone with it goes blind?
Ans DATED PROTOCOL don't emphasize a healthy diet?

Who was your doctor?
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Old 03-18-2024, 04:22 PM   #17
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So you are saying stop vaxing for small pox, polio.......
When I was kid in the 50s, polio was very prevelent. Saw it every day.
My cousin hd it.
Nah...I'm saying do some serious research into whatever they put into vaccines that MIGHT be causing autism...then find something else to use in the vaccines that doesn't cause autism.

OR...release a study that would SATISFY those who fear that vaccines are causing autism.

Stop calling people CRAZY and start ASSURING parents that the vaccines are indeed NOT the cause.

That would be the SMART thing to do...and the SCIENTIFIC thing.

Unless of course, your research grants are dependent on entities beholden to big pharma...and then you have a giant conflict of interest...which is SOMETHING ELSE that needs to be CLEANED UP.

It's all just a giant MESS of a CLUSTER FUCK out there...
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Old 03-18-2024, 05:14 PM   #18
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https://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/top...ditions/autism

Currently there is NO consensus as to what is etiological when it comes to the spectrum of conditions the medical community calls autism.

QUOTE:Studies indicate the rate of autism is rising, but causes are not well-understood. Scientists have found rare gene changes, or mutations, as well as small common genetic variations in people with autism, implying a genetic component. A growing area of research focuses on interaction of genetic and environmental factors. For example, a woman’s exposure to harmful contaminants during pregnancy may trigger a genetic mutation leading to autism in her child. No link has been found between autism and vaccines, including those containing thimerosal, a mercury-based compound.
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Old 03-18-2024, 05:46 PM   #19
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Why is autism on the rise?
Since when?
Since the vaxxes were introduced long ago or more recently?
Have ANY vax formulae been chaged over the years?
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Old 03-18-2024, 06:32 PM   #20
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Tom,

Pulled these numbers from the CDC site here:
https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/data.html

Code:
Year  1 in X children
----  ---------------
2020      1 in 36
2018      1 in 44
2016      1 in 54
2014      1 in 59
2012      1 in 69
2010      1 in 68
2008      1 in 88
2006      1 in 110
2004      1 in 125 
2002      1 in 150
2000      1 in 150

Here's a link showing the history of the childhood vaccination schedule through 2018:
https://www.marinhealthcare.org/uplo...esentation.pdf

In the late 1950's kids were given:
• Oral Polio Vaccine (OPV) – licensed in 1955
• Recommended vaccines:
• DTP (Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis)
• Smallpox
• Polio (OPV)

In the late 1960's, kids were given:
• Vaccines against Measles (1963), Mumps (1967) and Rubella (1969) were developed
• Recommended vaccines:
• DTP (Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis)
• Smallpox
• Polio (OPV)
• Measles
• Mumps
• Rubella

In the 1970’s:
• Smallpox was declared eradicated and use of smallpox vaccine was discontinued in 1972
• Measles, Mumps, Rubella vaccine was combined into MMR
• Recommended vaccines:
• DTP (Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis)
• Polio (OPV)
• MMR (Measles, Mumps, Rubella)

Fast forward to present day.

The childhood vaccination schedule now looks like this and calls for kids to get more than 70 shots by the age of 18:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedul...dolescent.html


Autism rates present day really are 4X what they were in 2000. (5X for vaccinated kids in the limited published studies I've seen.)

Again, I'm not saying cause and effect between Autism and childhood vaccines exists.

But like the authors of the peer reviewed paper I posted I am saying:

The correlation between Autism and childhood vaccines appears to be statistically significant, and I'd like to see further research involving population-wide sample size.

To sum it up:

I'd really like to see an all out effort to identify root cause (even if it turns out to be childhood vaccines.)


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Old 03-18-2024, 06:41 PM   #21
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Well that certainly looks like a smoking gun.
At the least, serious study is warranted.
You know, science, no matter Dr. Quack says.
Maybe no link is known today because no one looked for it?

ut out of 70 jabs, how many might be suspect?
1?
2?
All?

And with all these vaxxes out there, is there one for liberalism?
Maybe that's what happened tp H4C?
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Old 03-18-2024, 07:58 PM   #22
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Oh, so science is no longer the bastard stepchild?
Well, that's refreshing........

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Old 03-19-2024, 10:16 AM   #23
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Is there a vax for this diseased mind?
I'll take the risk.
And the boosters.
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Old 03-19-2024, 10:39 AM   #24
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Another MD clown parroting 'correlation does not imply causation'. That's the thing to do these days. PROBLEM is none of these fuckers every took a logic or critical thinking course AND none knows SHIT ABOUT NUTRITION.



All they're good at is practicing DATED PROTOCOLS so they can cover their ass in case of a fuck up. 'I didn't do anything wrong. I followed standard procedure.' If you don't fit into their treatment prototype, they can't/won't do shit for you. And they love dispensing their drugs.



I reached out to my pulmonologist to see about helping me with an exemption for covid. She shit her pants at the mere mention of going against what all her peers were doing. Even though she knew vaxxing was not in my best interests.


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Exactly my experience, as well, with my VA doctor a few years ago re masking. Mind-numbed, programmed. brainwashed robots who couldn't compete with a fruit fly in a formal debate contest.
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I'd really like to see an all out effort to identify root cause (even if it turns out to be childhood vaccines.)
The only people that aren't in favor of this are the people that are afraid of the answer.

It could be the number of vaccines, pesticides, chemicals in food, pollution, prescription drugs doing genetic or other damage that then causes birth defects or autism, illegal drug use, combinations etc... But it's insane that there isn't an all out effort to understand what's going on.
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The only people that aren't in favor of this are the people that are afraid of the answer.

It could be the number of vaccines, pesticides, chemicals in food, pollution, prescription drugs doing genetic or other damage that then causes birth defects or autism, illegal drug use, combinations etc... But it's insane that there isn't an all out effort to understand what's going on.
They will spend$billion’s finding a pharmaceutical cure instead of scientifically finding the cause.
Follow the scien…silenced.
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They will spend$billion’s finding a pharmaceutical cure instead of scientifically finding the cause.
Follow the scien…silenced.

I have a condition of a type of bone marrow cancer (5 major subtypes, mine is type 3), so by yours ILLOGIC, Myself, and all the others who have this diagnosis, should sit by and suffer the consequences of the pathology (bleeding and recurring infections due to loss of mature white cells and platelets) while someone tries to find the etiology? Same goes to those with MS and a myriad of other conditions of which the cause(s) are UNKONWN.

I shift between two medications: 1) oral med that blocks the gene that is responsible for the condition, alternating with 2) a white blood cell growth factor.

Also, research for symptoms control and causation GO HAND IN HAND or other wise the symptomatic relief would not have been found

Where do you find this weak ass logic??
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Another MD clown parroting 'correlation does not imply causation'. That's the thing to do these days. PROBLEM is none of these fuckers every took a logic or critical thinking course AND none knows SHIT ABOUT NUTRITION.
46 is not an MD but he would like everyone to believe he is.
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46 is not an MD but he would like everyone to believe he is.
Same education, different clinical
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I have a condition of a type of bone marrow cancer (5 major subtypes, mine is type 3), so by yours ILLOGIC, Myself, and all the others who have this diagnosis, should sit by and suffer the consequences of the pathology (bleeding and recurring infections due to loss of mature white cells and platelets) while someone tries to find the etiology? Same goes to those with MS and a myriad of other conditions of which the cause(s) are UNKONWN.

I shift between two medications: 1) oral med that blocks the gene that is responsible for the condition, alternating with 2) a white blood cell growth factor.

Also, research for symptoms control and causation GO HAND IN HAND or other wise the symptomatic relief would not have been found

Where do you find this weak ass logic??
1. I'm really sorry to hear about your condition. (I lost both parents, my best friend, and many others in my life to cancer.)

2. You have to know deep down that's not what he was suggesting at all (the underlined text from your quote.)

In fact just the opposite is true (the bolded text from your quote.)

There's room in this world for (and we need) both.


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