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Old 10-25-2012, 05:01 PM   #61
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I imagine the traditional student loan model, govt. loans are like health insurance, they take the cost of school from being a direct market driven relationship from consumer. Enabling middle man: Health insurance companies for health care, govt. for education.
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:30 PM   #62
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Barack Obama says he wants all these teachers.

He wants to increase Manufacturing Jobs in America.

What percentage of workers in manufacturing jobs use advanced Math and Science skills in their daily routines?
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:26 PM   #63
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For those unaccustomed to the loopholes and shelters of the corporate tax code, GE's success at avoiding taxes is nothing short of extraordinary. The company, led by Immelt, earned $14.2 billion in profits in 2010, but it paid not a penny in taxes because the bulk of those profits, some $9 billion, were offshore. In fact, GE got a $3.2 billion tax benefit. (from ABC report)
I agree tax loopholes must be closed - Obama had both houses of congress for two years, why did they FAIL to close them? The repubs were in favor of it too, but had no power. No they whine about it.

And why is the cost of college so high?
No reasonable explanation - you want to make college affordable to all - put price controls on them, not taxes on us.
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:27 PM   #64
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Barack Obama says he wants all these teachers.

He wants to increase Manufacturing Jobs in America.

What percentage of workers in manufacturing jobs use advanced Math and Science skills in their daily routines?
From the sounds of Obama's plans, no one in his administration uses them either!
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Old 10-26-2012, 01:00 AM   #65
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Why is it that there so many world class Universities in the U.S; yet, the k-12 educational system is an embarrassment?

Could the reason be that Higher Ed is more privatized?
it is privatized but bulk of the money for it comes from Educational Loans (a govt guarantee for a "business" that is considered TOO BIG TO FAIL- so it is scam for the private enterprise to get money at 0% interest rate through students, zero risk.. it is not like ONE fu*king school offers money back guarantee if students dont find jobs.

Just the adminstrators, the text book industry and all the excessive staff make a ton of money. Higher Education is just a well orchestrated scam.

Further, they also get huge amounts of government grant money and spend most of it on OVERHEADS... do you know that 45-48% of grant money GOES in OVERHEAD costs in most research universities.

Take away the guarantee of loans and colleges would automatically be efficient and focus more on real education and not on a lot of stupid athletic and other program bs they got.
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Take away the guarantee of loans and colleges would automatically be efficient and focus more on real education and not on a lot of stupid athletic and other program bs they got.
Indeed.
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Old 10-26-2012, 03:36 PM   #67
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The "Get Skills to Work" program Obama put in place has some success, lots of employers training people to work for them.
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The "Get Skills to Work" program Obama put in place has some success, lots of employers training people to work for them.
This program is having some success, too, by Government standards.

http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-...-place-workers


Report: Green-jobs program struggling to place workers

Placement in jobs retained more than six months through a $500 million Labor Department green-jobs training program is falling 84 percent short of its goal, according to a report released Friday.

The Labor inspector general audit offered a bleak picture of one of President Obama’s chief stimulus and policy goals — creating green jobs.

“Although grantees have reported achieving 90 percent of serving a collective goal of 126,493 participants, entered employment and retention results are far lower than planned,” the audit, which was an update to a September 2011 report, reports.
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:59 PM   #69
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Green jobs, very much like the unicorn

Somewhere they really exist
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