Hong Kong Derby Saturday

[Robert Fischer]

https://www.scmp.com/sport/racing/ar...-hit-out-draws


Anybody?

Anyone have some good past performance and/or video links ?

[Nitro]

You can visit our ongoing Hong Kong racing thread in the Selection forum where all sorts of links are available.
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...147165&page=43

You can also visit the HK Jockey club website.
PAST PERFORMANCES:
https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/conte...tarter_all.pdf

FORM GUIDE: Race #8 - https://www.hkjc.com/english/formguide/8.html

SPEED MAP: Race #8 - https://www.hkjc.com/english/speedguide/8.html

For VIDEOS of Past races go to the RESULTS link:
https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/infor...ate=2019/03/13
Select a Date and a Race#. Then directly Above the Order of Finish Table there are (3) Video links to choose from.

BTW we will also be posting our selections for this weekend’s race card on Sunday morning 3/17/19.

[Redboard]

So, the race will be run at 4:30am on Sunday morning?

Funny how their derby has 4 yr olds.

I'll take TIANCHI MONSTER

[Robert Fischer]

Thanks guys.

If I can coordinate the schedule and muster the energy, I'll look at making a play.

Supposedly the Chalk has a terrible post position? Can anyone confirm? Will have to re-watch that distance and see if I see the bias...

Always been fascinated with Hong Kong racing.

International Stakes are a somewhat reasonable proposition in that there is generally form. If you can decipher what is a true effort vs. a prep (not sure if that is as big in Hong Kong as it is in Australia), and you have access to the videos, it's a lot like handicapping Tampa! Just put it on mute and watch the races, watch the trips, etc...

Lot of money in racing, and Hong Kong is such a nice market.

Love Hong Kong, but I am too tall for America as it is, and this dog is too old to learn any new language beyond a few basic romantic phrases . Would love to visit, and would love to trade information with those interested in that market, but probably not a destination.

[Robert Fischer]

Thanks again.

Very helpful post.

Going to take a look. If I do see anything to wager, I'll be up, at the crack of dawn.

Originally Posted by Nitro

You can visit our ongoing Hong Kong racing thread in the Selection forum where all sorts of links are available.
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...147165&page=43

You can also visit the HK Jockey club website.
PAST PERFORMANCES:
https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/conte...tarter_all.pdf

FORM GUIDE: Race #8 - https://www.hkjc.com/english/formguide/8.html

SPEED MAP: Race #8 - https://www.hkjc.com/english/speedguide/8.html

For VIDEOS of Past races go to the RESULTS link:
https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/infor...ate=2019/03/13
Select a Date and a Race#. Then directly Above the Order of Finish Table there are (3) Video links to choose from.

BTW we will also be posting our selections for this weekend’s race card on Sunday morning 3/17/19.

Will check out your selections if I play.

[Robert Fischer]

Wake up to a winner??



every day is a win Every day alive on this planet is a win.

"The #1 has to take back wide into the first turn, which is going to be tough. Considering wheeling him exactly 2nd and 3rd... The #3FURORE is interesting; He's tried to close into slow paces."
FIN 3-1



In total, I did lose $0.13

Flat bet without the odds, and experimented with a wager not offered over here; the "omni/swinger".


While the 'gimicky' "wheel the 1 exactly 2nd" angle/trick did play out, it's evident to me that the real money was in the ��Win pool��.

1. The #1Waikuku took heavy favoritism (almost 2.8M!!! ) , in spite of insiders understanding that the trip would be challenging...
2. The #8Enrichment was completely dead on the board...
3. Of my contenders that left #3FURORE and #2Dark_Dream..
4. there was a solid 'dutching' opportunity to share the risk and ballpark a profit target to go for. You still needed the #1 to have enough trouble and either the #2 or #3 to run a good, but if you were confident in that opinion as I was, the 'Win Dutch w/ 5/2 & 9/2' would have been the real play
5. the gimmick quinella wheel that I got lucky and hit, should be relegated as a smaller-based wager/long-termROI play that you don't mind losing in any given race.

03/17 12:44 AM HK-Sha Tin 8 $0.13 WN (PWHL) 1, 2, 3, 8 $0.52 $0.77

03/17 12:10 AM HK-Sha Tin 8 $0.13 QN (PWHL) 2, 3, 8 / 1 $0.39 $1.00

03/16 11:57 PM HK-Sha Tin 8 $0.13 QN (BOX) 2, 3, 8 $0.39 $0.00

03/17 12:42 AM HK-Sha Tin 8 $0.13 OMN (BOX) 2, 3, 8 $0.39 $0.00

03/17 12:41 AM HK-Sha Tin 8 $0.13 PL 8 $0.13 $0.00


Full opinion from what I could gather before the race and the odds;

Originally Posted by redboardsfromthedarkweb

Hong Kong Derby - Trainers John Size and Frankie Lor Fu-chuen train seven of fourteen runners. The stars seem to be the #1WAIKUKU and the #2Dark_Dream ... The #1 has to take back wide into the first turn, which is going to be tough. Considering wheeling him exactly 2nd and 3rd... The #3FURORE is interesting; He's tried to close into slow paces. Today the pace will be honest. #8ENRICHMENT was up close to a fast pace last time and can sit a better trip today. Not crazy about the #13TIANCHI_MONSTER...The #9HARMONY_VICTORY is a long shot who has had his form darkened with bad trips, good jockey switch today. Really cool wagering menu, with some wagers having $0.13 minimums and an 'omni/swinger' wager that isn't offered in US racing.