Some things about this country are completely insane.....

[Shooter 79]

[QUOTE=zico20]Can you please clarify what you mean by developed. That is open to many interpretations. Thank You!

Is Brazil developed? If so, then your argument is false. Or are we just talking about white countries?[/QUOTE

This article pretty much explains it.
But these are the only countries the US shall be compared to, we are told, because the US shall only be compared to “developed” countries when analyzing its murder rate and gun ownership.
And yet, no reason for this is ever given. What is the criteria for deciding that the United States shall be compared to Luxembourg but not to Mexico, which has far more in common with the US than Luxembourg in terms of size, history, ethnic diversity, and geography?
https://mises.org/blog/mistake-only-...oped-countries

[nearco]

It think it's pretty obvious that you would compare like with like, hence you would compare the US to Australia (which introduced gun restriction in the 1996, with great success), Canada, northern European countries. Hell you could take all northern and western Europe as whole if you'd like and compare it to the US. Then you have a similar population size, a large diverse population with many recent immigrant populations. Yet tiny gun homicide compared to the US.

But hey, if your gold standard is Mexico, South Africa, Honduras, Brasil, Venezuela etc, countries where the rule of law is weak, law enforcement is incredibly corrupt, and you can literally get away with murder, then hey, that says a lot about what kind of company you think the US should be keeping.


Whatever man, keep your guns. Just expect lots of dead bodies as the natural by product.

[Tom]

We have had this crap before.
Germany and Japan in the 1940s.

How did we correct it then?

We obliterated them. We did not hold back.
There were no innocents. We bombed and fire bombed around the clock, civilians or not. We targeted civilians.

That is what works.
I doubt anything short of this will today.

You destroy evil. If you do not, it comes back at you later.
Lesson from WWI and again from Desert Storm.

Get the job done or you will have to do it again.

If you are going to worry about not killing your enemies family, he will certainly kill yours.

[Shooter 79]

Originally Posted by nearco

It think it's pretty obvious that you would compare like with like, hence you would compare the US to Australia (which introduced gun restriction in the 1996, with great success), Canada, northern European countries. Hell you could take all northern and western Europe as whole if you'd like and compare it to the US. Then you have a similar population size, a large diverse population with many recent immigrant populations. Yet tiny gun homicide compared to the US.

But hey, if your gold standard is Mexico, South Africa, Honduras, Brasil, Venezuela etc, countries where the rule of law is weak, law enforcement is incredibly corrupt, and you can literally get away with murder, then hey, that says a lot about what kind of company you think the US should be keeping.


Whatever man, keep your guns. Just expect lots of dead bodies as the natural by product.

You clearly didn't read the article.

[zico20]

Originally Posted by nearco

It think it's pretty obvious that you would compare like with like, hence you would compare the US to Australia (which introduced gun restriction in the 1996, with great success), Canada, northern European countries. Hell you could take all northern and western Europe as whole if you'd like and compare it to the US. Then you have a similar population size, a large diverse population with many recent immigrant populations. Yet tiny gun homicide compared to the US.

But hey, if your gold standard is Mexico, South Africa, Honduras, Brasil, Venezuela etc, countries where the rule of law is weak, law enforcement is incredibly corrupt, and you can literally get away with murder, then hey, that says a lot about what kind of company you think the US should be keeping.


Whatever man, keep your guns. Just expect lots of dead bodies as the natural by product.

All those countries you mentioned are non white. So, I see where you are going with this. The USA is to only be grouped with other nations that are a majority white. So, if we are going to go by that, if you were to take out the minority portion of the USA, then America is just like the "developed" countries in that our murder rate is on par with the rest of the whities, despite having a larger portion of whites owning guns in this country than the rest.

[RunForTheRoses]

[QUOTE=Shooter 79]

Originally Posted by zico20

Can you please clarify what you mean by developed. That is open to many interpretations. Thank You!

Is Brazil developed? If so, then your argument is false. Or are we just talking about white countries?[/QUOTE

This article pretty much explains it.
But these are the only countries the US shall be compared to, we are told, because the US shall only be compared to “developed” countries when analyzing its murder rate and gun ownership.
And yet, no reason for this is ever given. What is the criteria for deciding that the United States shall be compared to Luxembourg but not to Mexico, which has far more in common with the US than Luxembourg in terms of size, history, ethnic diversity, and geography?
https://mises.org/blog/mistake-only-...oped-countries

Thanks for posting that, of course dumbasses will only read what they want to read.

[Shooter 79]

Originally Posted by nearco

It think it's pretty obvious that you would compare like with like, hence you would compare the US to Australia (which introduced gun restriction in the 1996, with great success),.

There is little comparison. We have a Bill of Rights, Australia does not and "gun restriction" is a misnomer. It was a mandatory gun ban.

[horses4courses]

[zico20]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

Hey h4c,

Here is the FBI "rules" on what is terrorism. Would you like to go through each of your examples or should I.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investig...ism-definition

"Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:

1) Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
2) Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and
3) Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.

[Tom]

H4C never let a total lack of fact stop him.
Libs are like that - go with what sound good at the moment.

Like Obama, for example, saying we should tone down the rhetoric about muslims, so the neighbors who saw something did not say something for fear of being labeled racists.

Obama is partly to blame for the attacks last week.

[delayjf]

"

1.4 million Americans died in wars since 1776.
1.4 million Americans died via household guns since 1968
3,400 Americans died via terrorism since 2001.
3,400 Americans died via household guns in the last 5 weeks."

Per the Department of Justice - US citizens use firearms to defend themselves from criminals 1.5 million times each year. (I'm guessing this stat is way under reported).

Nearco
The gun homicide rates you quote also include suicides and accidental death.

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by Tom

H4C never let a total lack of fact stop him.
Libs are like that - go with what sound good at the moment.

Like Obama, for example, saying we should tone down the rhetoric about muslims, so the neighbors who saw something did not say something for fear of being labeled racists.

Obama is partly to blame for the attacks last week.

If Obama is to be partly to blame the attacks last week, then the entire GOP field of candidates for the nomination is partly blame for the terrorist attack on Plan Parenthood in Colorado. The shooter even quoted Ted Cruz when he was arrested.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

If Obama is to be partly to blame the attacks last week, then the entire GOP field of candidates for the nomination is partly blame for the terrorist attack on Plan Parenthood in Colorado. The shooter even quoted Ted Cruz when he was arrested.

No, that is ridiculous.
PP brought it on itself, if anything, by DOING the savage things.
GOP condemned it

[Saratoga_Mike]

For the first time since 1920, the NY Times decided to publish a front-page editorial, a snippet of which H4C posted above. In the past 95 years, nothing else has merited front-page attention? Guns in the US are more outrageous than Hitler? 9/11? The recent Paris massacre? ...

[dartman51]

Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike

For the first time since 1920, the NY Times decided to publish a front-page editorial, a snippet of which H4C posted above. In the past 95 years, nothing else has merited front-page attention? Guns in the US are more outrageous than Hitler? 9/11? The recent Paris massacre? ...

They are when you have an agenda.