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09-10-2018, 12:57 PM
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#736
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Buckle Up
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff P
I clearly posted: "If I were writing a novel"...
That said --
Were there not (initially at least) eyewitness reports of shots being fired from within the crowd?
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Most if not all of those reports and videos have been scrubbed from the net....I wonder why?.....Someday, dark to light will happen.
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09-10-2018, 05:12 PM
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#737
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barahona44
Picking out a target from more than a quarter mile away at night among several thousand people.
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Some people there said there were multiple shooters and locations gunfire coming from (but it could have ALL been echoes). So one guy on ground or sniper with one target is not necessarily impossible.
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09-10-2018, 05:31 PM
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#738
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
Most if not all of those reports and videos have been scrubbed from the net....I wonder why?.....Someday, dark to light will happen.
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Yes. And someday...the sun will go from light to dark...and none of it will matter anymore.
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09-10-2018, 08:06 PM
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#739
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Location: New Hampshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
Yes. And someday...the sun will go from light to dark...and none of it will matter anymore.
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I find that one the easy one to agree with but think the earth will be sucked into the suns gravitational pull first. When this first happened I believed with every fiber of my being that we have advanced so far that within 48 hours we would have 95% of the facts. And somewhere said that here countering someone who immediately suggested a cover up would happen. I was wrong, I based that opinion on the profile of the crime and making an optimistic projection of the FBI, cameras, and local LEO's to that of the Boston marathon bobming. My gut feeling now is the company and the local government both benefit beyond the normal consideration of release to the public. The hypothesis of such an event diverting just about all resources leaving another intended soft target completely exposed for a calculated amount of time is very valid and exposes weakness all across our country.
So Thask, being on the ground close to where this happened, do you have any gut feelings on any of it?
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09-10-2018, 09:11 PM
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#740
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fast4522
So Thask, being on the ground close to where this happened, do you have any gut feelings on any of it?
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I can't tell you what I think happened...because then you'll consider me a bigger conspiracy theorist than even ReplayRandall.  All I can say is that, IMO, the truth about this massacre will NEVER be publicly known, because this is a cover-up of the highest order. A pesky bit of news circulating around Vegas was that Paddock owed a $100,000 marker to MGM, which he paid off in full two days before the shooting. I know that if I had decided to commit suicide...paying up on a casino debt beforehand would have never crossed my mind.
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Last edited by thaskalos; 09-10-2018 at 09:14 PM.
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09-10-2018, 10:34 PM
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Location: New Hampshire
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You have more data than I do, it escapes me how bizarre this was. The amount of firepower in the room suggests a heist exceeding what would be kept in a local bank that involves a team. I would not consider you a conspiracy theorist at all and regardless of political affiliation would find conversation with you at a sports book interesting on a boatload of subjects. I on the other hand I am probably a bigger conspiracy theorist that RR but often dismiss some too fast or hold onto some forever if I believe someone before they have been gotten to for a lack of better words.
Your "will NEVER be publicly known" I agree with, thanks for sharing.
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09-11-2018, 12:00 AM
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#742
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Bottom-line, if I do the research and am able to verify intel, then most of the time my “Conspiracy Theory” will make a hell of a lot more sense than the story the media peddles as the truth.....Trust your own work and instinct, if something doesn't quite fit, check it out.
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09-11-2018, 08:54 AM
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#743
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Had four friends there that had to seek shelter nearby. They could see where the shooting came from the whole time. They assure me there was only one shooter.
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09-11-2018, 10:08 AM
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#744
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
I can't tell you what I think happened...because then you'll consider me a bigger conspiracy theorist than even ReplayRandall. All I can say is that, IMO, the truth about this massacre will NEVER be publicly known, because this is a cover-up of the highest order. A pesky bit of news circulating around Vegas was that Paddock owed a $100,000 marker to MGM, which he paid off in full two days before the shooting. I know that if I had decided to commit suicide...paying up on a casino debt beforehand would have never crossed my mind. |
Mandalay Bay part of MGM, maybe they have rules for comped rooms and he didn't want to leave?
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09-11-2018, 12:11 PM
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#745
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Buckle Up
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chadk66
Had four friends there that had to seek shelter nearby. They could see where the shooting came from the whole time. They assure me there was only one shooter.
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If your friends were sheltered nearby, how could they see everything that took place?.....Just sayin'...
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09-12-2018, 07:14 PM
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#746
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
If your friends were sheltered nearby, how could they see everything that took place?.....Just sayin'...
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they were straight out from the hotel windows he was shooting at. across from the area people were standing in front of the stage. They weren't in a building they were behind objects which they could still see from.
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09-12-2018, 07:27 PM
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Smarty Pants
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Every Vote Counts
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I'm just looking for answers here . . .
and The answer is!
Force.
Not sure why all the so called arguments against are blanked out.
Doesn't matter.
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10-01-2018, 07:28 PM
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Same as it ever was.....
Been a year since this awful tragedy.
Not a single piece of legislation passed on bump stocks or assault weapons.
What was the definition of insanity again?
Ah yes.....repeating the same mistake over and over and expecting progress. 
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10-01-2018, 07:41 PM
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Quintessential guru
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Quote:
Originally Posted by horses4courses
Been a year since this awful tragedy.
Not a single piece of legislation passed on bump stocks or assault weapons.
What was the definition of insanity again?
Ah yes.....repeating the same mistake over and over and expecting progress. |
You missed the presser in the rose garden, otherwise you would know the answer. Bureaucracy and excessive regulations!
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10-01-2018, 07:52 PM
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#750
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Quote:
Originally Posted by horses4courses
Been a year since this awful tragedy.
Not a single piece of legislation passed on bump stocks or assault weapons.
What was the definition of insanity again?
Ah yes.....repeating the same mistake over and over and expecting progress. |
Nothing gets voted on until we have a thorough FBI investigation.
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