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Old 10-15-2018, 12:19 AM   #196
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You can hurt a trainer talking shit about his horses.
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Old 10-15-2018, 12:20 PM   #197
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Is this for Vic? If so you didn't know he is the announcer at Oaklawn Park?
maybe he knows something I don't. I better put in a call to Hot Springs.
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After I retweeted this they exchanged a few barbs...Good stuff boys...lol..click on the little bird to see them.

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Old 10-16-2018, 10:36 AM   #199
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After I retweeted this they exchanged a few barbs...Good stuff boys...lol..click on the little bird to see them.

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That is what I said. And if you consider getting beat over seven lengths in a $40K maiden claimer that went in 1:46.77 for 1 1/16 miles running a jump you're nowhere near as smart as everyone else seems to think you are.
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:45 AM   #200
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I really don't get why a few trainers worry about what analysts think or say. It is two completely different aspects of the sport. Trainers look at the horses one way, analysts look at them as wagering prospects. You'd think the trainers have more important things to worry about.

Anybody know what the specific race/horse they are talking about was?
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:58 AM   #201
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I really don't get why a few trainers worry about what analysts think or say. It is two completely different aspects of the sport. Trainers look at the horses one way, analysts look at them as wagering prospects. You'd think the trainers have more important things to worry about.

Anybody know what the specific race/horse they are talking about was?
I think there is an intrinsic battle about what types of horses that trainers get to train. Barclay Tagg, Shug, Brown, Pletcher get the Ivy Leagues and the lower tiers trainers get the community college grads.

Talking horses team knows whats in everybody's barns. I thought Ray Handle's horses ran above their pay grade at Saratoga. He had 12th of Never Land run really well at first out and 2nd out and looks like a good turf horse.

When I've seen Ray at the track or caught him on camera in the paddock or the winners circle, he gives off high intensity. It seems to me that he gives 100% and his horses punch above their weight class.
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When I've seen Ray at the track or caught him on camera in the paddock or the winners circle, he gives off high intensity.
Fuss, do me a favor and elaborate on your above comment.....
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Fuss, do me a favor and elaborate on your above comment.....
I look at someone and I read their energy. The way he saddles, the way he walks his stock. I traded a couple of tweets with Ray in August about 12NL because I bet 12nl first out and missed a length on dirt. My opinion is not much. Just what I pick up. Did you get a different vibe? or more curious where I come up with my sense of things?
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Old 10-16-2018, 11:11 AM   #204
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I look at someone and I read their energy. The way he saddles, the way he walks his stock. I traded a couple of tweets with Ray in August about 12NL because I bet 12nl first out and missed a length on dirt. My opinion is not much. Just what I pick up. Did you get a different vibe? or more curious where I come up with my sense of things?

I'm just interested in the smaller overlooked nuggets of "intentions" that might be added to my toolbox, always looking for an extra edge....Thanks for your perspectives, I find them intriguing.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:41 PM   #205
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Ray and Anthony were just having fun.

Makes the game more fun. Both are good guys.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:51 PM   #206
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Ray and Anthony were just having fun.

Makes the game more fun. Both are good guys.
Really? They both seem like good guys, but I did not feel the love....lol.. Anthony's temperament on Twitter reminds me of someone else in horse racing, name escapes me.
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Really? They both seem like good guys, but I did not feel the love....lol.. Anthony's temperament on Twitter reminds me of someone else in horse racing, name escapes me.
Further proving the foolishness of deciding someone's temperament based on what they post on the internet.
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Further proving the foolishness of deciding someone's temperament based on what they post on the internet.
Read carefully... I said "temperament on Twitter."
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Read carefully... I said "temperament on Twitter."
You will have to explain the difference to me.

I think it's all people reading into what is written. Frankly, I have found that the vast majority of the time people get things wrong. I thought a guy was being snide to me the other day, only to realize he was being tongue in cheek, and what he Tweeted to me was actually very funny. I'm not blaming others, I think it's genuinely hard to judge much of the time....and unfortunately, most people ( myself included ) can jump to incorrect conclusions.
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Interesting last few pages... I think I now have a better understanding of why Mr. Stauffer failed to reply to a question I asked him three times in a row in a different thread a couple of months back.
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