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05-05-2010, 04:08 PM
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Apple 2GS Wiz
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Mirror
They haven't taken down entries for Friday 2009 at their site.
Racing resumes Saturday I believe.
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05-05-2010, 04:37 PM
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A suggestion to the TIOGA TEAM:
--I saw this idea being used by ELLIS PARK a few years ago. On their website, they had a title something like this:
'OUR ADW PARTNERS'
--They listed all the ADWS where online bettors could send in their bets to their track. I thought it was a great idea. Instead of handicappers trying to search all over the place for an ADW to bet the TIOGA DOWNS races, why not make it easier for bettors, and list the ADWS right on your website?
T2W
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Last edited by trying2win; 05-05-2010 at 04:39 PM.
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05-05-2010, 04:48 PM
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Thanks for the accolades, gang. Glad to help out. Especially for a racetrack like TIOGA DOWNS trying to do something positive to help bettors, via the lower takeouts.
T2W
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05-05-2010, 06:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray2000
Mirror
They haven't taken down entries for Friday 2009 at their site.
Racing resumes Saturday I believe.
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Wow thanks Ray, I just clicked on those 3 days and never looked at
the dates I blame it on the heat . USTA site has 12 races listed for Sat.
nothing up for Sunday yet.
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05-05-2010, 07:16 PM
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#110
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Thanks T2W
Quote:
Originally Posted by trying2win
Thanks for the accolades, gang. Glad to help out. Especially for a racetrack like TIOGA DOWNS trying to do something positive to help bettors, via the lower takeouts.
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Word of your good deed has been circulated amongus...much appreciated.
It is looking good for a page dedicated to handicapping off our site...have a look over the next day or two and log in the feedback.
http://www.tiogadowns.com/index.htm
Should have the contest info and expert selections up there (as they should be) for the coming weekend's racing.
Twelve pretty good looking (for us, anyway) races Saturday and Sunday is always our strongest. The Saturday quality is much improved over last week, I think.
Bet some winners,
Nick
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05-06-2010, 01:38 AM
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Is there going to be a new thread for this weeks selections or just post in this thread?
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05-06-2010, 04:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willphorse
Is there going to be a new thread for this weeks selections or just post in this thread?
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Will, I think Ray should start a new one for each week....This thread is so long as it is....I believe that it will get very confusing after awhile..
"HEY RAY" are you listening....???....What do you think ???
best,
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05-06-2010, 07:25 AM
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Apple 2GS Wiz
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willphorse
Lottakash
and others
Just continuing this thread to a new one wouldn't be helpful, but I would like to see a thread for just Tioga contest(s) picks and standings, so I'll start one later today. Any other thoughts and comments on Tioga's take-out, fan friendliness, wagering (other than contest related) can be posted wherever you all think is best.
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05-06-2010, 09:23 AM
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Well, Ray,
Takeout for 1 is very helpful, and I wish them luck with it. The way thoroughbreds are going, Some Thoro-cappers may come to the "dark side" if they see a continuing trend in lowering takeout.
Fans are always friendly both on and off. There is 1 handicapper that goes to Tioga I cant stand. I will not mention any names, as I know a few are from the area... but this guy walks around like VIP, and shrugs everybody off like he's "The Man", yet If you see him wager, or see him at the track, HORRIBLE lol. But I guess you get that at every track. Other than that 1 persons "Snub" attitude, seems to me like not just Tioga fans, but most Harness Racing fans are very acceptable! Hope it continues.
And 3rd, about the contest. I like the way you're running it Ray. You are out to prove WINNER handicapping talent. Exacta Boxes are much easier to handicap, but a handicapper having to KEY a horse on top of 2 others and hit an exacta, that takes skill. Not only to do, but to make a profit doing it!
Phenomenal Idea!
Also, a quick question for ya Ray. I know you use your "Bot". Do you use universal settings for all tracks, or do you adjust based on track?
As Always Good Luck, and Good Racing
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05-06-2010, 10:06 AM
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Apple 2GS Wiz
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Clarion, Pa
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will
The "Bot" adjusts for individual tracks using this table of speed rating adjustments found in reply #6 at
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=64718
and adjusts for post position bias similar to TrackMaster post bias numbers found in their programs under the saddle number. I use all of the races for the past year, I think TM uses only the last 30 days.
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05-06-2010, 10:08 AM
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Puter Wiz HAHA
BTW, Good Luck in the Software Development Challenge! You will be tough to beat!
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05-06-2010, 11:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willphorse
Puter Wiz HAHA
BTW, Good Luck in the Software Development Challenge! You will be tough to beat!
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Yeah Ray, GL with the SDC....
Ray decided many moons ago to develop his software so that he doesn't have to spend his precious time handicapping the races all day, by using his brain.....He uses that to dull all his senses by sipping Amaretto all day....And when he is not sipping, he is usually repairing his Snow-Blower...
best,
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05-06-2010, 02:43 PM
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Contest Day 3 Selections (May 8th)
- 6,1,2
- 2,8,9
- 3,6,4
- 1,4,5
- 2,3,7
- 8,6,7
- 4,2,6
- 5,6,4
- 2,7,5
- 5,4,1 entry
- 3,8,1
- 6,5,3
Contest Day 3 Selections (May 8th)
rtd
(aka bobby z)
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05-06-2010, 06:00 PM
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That's good to use the other thread Ray just for picks! Nice idea. I will ask if we can make that a sticky.
A couple of updates:
Tioga's website will have the picks and standings up soon.
As well, Tioga has added $100 to the pot for the challenge. So that brings $300 donated to the Standardbred Adoption Society of the winners choice (mike from Pace $100, HANA $100 and Tioga $100).
Good luck and we hope to see some of you on the live blog/picks for Saturday night harness racing. We'll be starting at 6:50PM. Tioga races will be on tap, of course. Also on tap for Saturday, the Diplomat Final, with NA Cup and Meadowlands Pace eligibles, and the return of 2YO pacer of the year Nebupannezar at Woodbine, and the big one of the evening the $220k Berrys Creek Final at the Meadowlands.
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05-06-2010, 06:59 PM
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#120
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Dean T
Where is the live/blog? thanks.
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