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The Tioga Team · 04-01-2010, 10:22 AM

...got me hook, line and sinker here...

http://cangamble.blogspot.com/2010/0...th-future.html

badcompany · 04-08-2010, 08:09 AM

Nick,

Since we have you here, I have a question.

Last year I played a race in which the horse I had on top in an exacta broke stride and left the course. Amazingly, he got back on gait and finished first. I figured for sure the stewards would take the horse down for leaving the course, but he stayed up, and I uncrumpled my ticket and went to the window.

Of course, I'm not complaining about the result but I was wondering why he didn't come down.

toetoe · 04-08-2010, 11:55 AM

I have always thought that a low-takeout wager on the first race would bring hardcore folks to the track. I guess making it the only wager of its kind on the night is indicated, as switching takeouts around sounds like madness. The only double, or maybe the only super duper ...

LottaKash · 04-08-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tioga Team

...got me hook, line and sinker here...

http://cangamble.blogspot.com/2010/0...th-future.html

Wow, just got up to date on this one.....Repeat after me...."Owhatafooliam"

Funny....I was flabbergasted when I first read this, and I figured that they (Woodbine) finally got the message, and made the necesary changes to advance into the modern day world of wagering....

Gulp....Cangamble, what a dirty trick !.....

best,

The Tioga Team · 04-08-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by badcompany

Nick,

Since we have you here, I have a question.

Last year I played a race in which the horse I had on top in an exacta broke stride and left the course. Amazingly, he got back on gait and finished first. I figured for sure the stewards would take the horse down for leaving the course, but he stayed up, and I uncrumpled my ticket and went to the window.

Of course, I'm not complaining about the result but I was wondering why he didn't come down.

I don't have an answer for you here BC...those "off the course" calls are left to the judges interpretation, for better or worse. Remember that one when you get a bad DQ someday...

trying2win · 04-09-2010, 03:11 AM

--I couldn't help but notice Melman's enthusiasm for Tioga Downs' initiatives and possibility thinking. Good show Mel!

--I too commend Tioga Downs for lowering their track takeout. However, in my opinion there is still room for improvement. One is in the area of 'breakage'. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming all New York state tracks, thoroughbred or harness employ the 'sleazy' breakage formula as listed on the NYRA website...i.e:
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BREAKAGE

$2.10 to 9.99 payoff, break to 10 cents; $10 to 49.99 payoff, break to 20 cents; $50 to 499.99 payoff, break to 50 cents; $500 and up, break to $1.00.

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--Someone needs to convince the neanderthal management at the NYRA to follow the nickel breakage formula that they do at Canadian racetracks...i.e.
the nickel breakage formula is the same no matter what the mutuel payoff.

--Again speaking about neanderthals, is it the New York state government officials that restrict the live video of some, or all of New York state tracks' races out-of-state? If so, why? Same goes with inter-state betting. Is there a restriction on that too? If these 'paranoid practices' are still being dictated by these politicians, I say it's time to get into the 21st century. Isn't this the same New York state government that are crying they are short of revenue for government programs? What part of common sense do they not understand?

--Can the Tioga Team please contact LINK2BET and get your track on their betting menu? Buffalo Raceway is on LINK2BET'S betting menu....so why not your track? Don't you want to increase your revenues by offering wagering to bettors outside Canada and the U.S.? Even though I'm a Canadian...I have an account at LINK2BET to access their rebates, so I admit I'm biased in this in this request

Anyway, that's my two cents worth. May your 2010 Tioga Downs harness meet exceed your expectations.

T2W
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~"There are these two things you can have in life...REASONS OR RESULTS...REASONS DON'T COUNT!"

--Dr. Robert Anthony

melman · 04-09-2010, 09:36 AM

How about a HANA "Night at the Races" this summer at Tioga?

toetoe · 04-09-2010, 12:47 PM

Tioga ...

Oh-oh, what a feeling !!!

The Tioga Team · 04-09-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by melman

How about a HANA "Night at the Races" this summer at Tioga?

Outstanding!

Cubbymac26 · 04-11-2010, 01:32 AM

nick,

im a young horse racing fan and i cant wait for tioga to open i live in connecticut but i dont think foxwoods carries it..

im on business for work at pocono downs till may 10 and i promise ill make it there the sunday card..

as for my two sense if it were up to me i think i would have made opening nite the friday before the derby when derby fever is at a peak... i think youd get a better crowd in that regard as ive noticed that after the derby it turns into a ghost town...

anyshot of u calling foxwoods and maybe iron out a contract with them cuz i no they would love to have it

The Tioga Team · 04-12-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubbymac26

nick,

im a young horse racing fan and i cant wait for tioga to open i live in connecticut but i dont think foxwoods carries it..

im on business for work at pocono downs till may 10 and i promise ill make it there the sunday card..

as for my two sense if it were up to me i think i would have made opening nite the friday before the derby when derby fever is at a peak... i think youd get a better crowd in that regard as ive noticed that after the derby it turns into a ghost town...

anyshot of u calling foxwoods and maybe iron out a contract with them cuz i no they would love to have it

We have been in contact with Foxwoods, but they have not carried our signal in the past. Would you be willing to contact their simulcast coordinator Lou Severino and see if it is something he would be willing to pick up in 2010 as an experiment, with the reduced takeout rates? The decoder only costs $ 50.00 a month and is one of the cheaper decoders around. Let us know if you need any further information and thanks again for your support.

The Tioga Team · 04-12-2010, 01:04 PM

--Can the Tioga Team please contact LINK2BET and get your track on their betting menu? Buffalo Raceway is on LINK2BET'S betting menu....so why not your track? Don't you want to increase your revenues by offering wagering to bettors outside Canada and the U.S.? Even though I'm a Canadian...I have an account at LINK2BET to access their rebates, so I admit I'm biased in this in this request

We have e-mailed that location to see if they would have interest in our product.

Anyway, that's my two cents worth. May your 2010 Tioga Downs harness meet exceed your expectations.

T2W

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melman · 04-12-2010, 01:45 PM

How about your signal being available to Vegas residents? Your also in the casino business so maybe you have some contacts out there. I know of a few people who would love to see the Tioga signal in the Vegas racebooks. Tks

The Tioga Team · 04-12-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by melman

How about your signal being available to Vegas residents? Your also in the casino business so maybe you have some contacts out there. I know of a few people who would love to see the Tioga signal in the Vegas racebooks. Tks

The skinny on the simo side is that it is a lot like the "chicken or the egg" theory. It's hard to sell your signal if it's not real powerful (and popular), but you can't reach that level of strength without a large simo audience. We're no "Prom Queens".

Jason Settlemoir is about as plugged in as a guy can be in our biz and he campaigns tirelessly to get Tioga in as many spots as he can, calling in relationship favors and invoking Gural when it helps to do so. Vegas is a hard sell, they have always been very aloof and are increasingly less interested in horse racing as time goes by.

The only thing that works is if the customer lets his provider know what he desires. That's not laying the job off on you players...that's just what could work. If they will take Tioga in Las Vegas, we will jump through hoops of fire to get it to them.

Thanks

melman · 04-15-2010, 07:23 PM

Good news for The Tioga Team. I'm pretty sure they already know this but let's spread the word. Harness Eye, THE harness racing newspaper will be offering expanded coverage of the soon to start Tioga meet. Full pp's and every Sunday on there web site (harnesscharts.com) they will post up a full card analysis. Way to go Dboomster aka Derick Giwner the publisher of Harness Eye. Let's keep this train rolling.