|
|
11-11-2017, 05:21 PM
|
#1
|
@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,828
|
Another photo finish controversy at Del Mar
|
|
|
11-11-2017, 05:41 PM
|
#2
|
Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 15,123
|
I think they should increase take out, this has been proven to take care of all problems. They should not invest a little money to accurately time races and improve photo finish technology. That would be a waste of money.
|
|
|
11-11-2017, 06:43 PM
|
#3
|
Resurrectionist
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Cheyenne, Wy
Posts: 3,615
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
|
CJ,
Completely agree. The best technology?
I swore the longshot won that race during the actual running BTW.
__________________
Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best; it removes all that is base. All men are afraid in battle. The coward is the one who lets his fear overcome his sense of duty. Duty is the essence of manhood.
|
|
|
11-11-2017, 06:45 PM
|
#4
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 361
|
|
|
|
11-11-2017, 06:57 PM
|
#5
|
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 16,915
|
A friend of mine, Ken Klein (who passed about 15 months ago), taught me a cool shortcut to telling who the winner is.
He said, "The shadow has no camera angle."
BTW, this works really well when eyeballing a race at the wire.
Regards,
Dave Schwartz
|
|
|
11-11-2017, 07:12 PM
|
#6
|
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 254
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
A friend of mine, Ken Klein (who passed about 15 months ago), taught me a cool shortcut to telling who the winner is.
He said, "The shadow has no camera angle."
BTW, this works really well when eyeballing a race at the wire.
Regards,
Dave Schwartz
|
Only on a sunny day...
|
|
|
11-11-2017, 07:24 PM
|
#7
|
Resurrectionist
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Cheyenne, Wy
Posts: 3,615
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
A friend of mine, Ken Klein (who passed about 15 months ago), taught me a cool shortcut to telling who the winner is.
He said, "The shadow has no camera angle."
BTW, this works really well when eyeballing a race at the wire.
Regards,
Dave Schwartz
|
Good advice!!!!!
__________________
Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best; it removes all that is base. All men are afraid in battle. The coward is the one who lets his fear overcome his sense of duty. Duty is the essence of manhood.
|
|
|
11-11-2017, 07:49 PM
|
#8
|
Top Horse Analytics
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 12,303
|
It looks like a head-bobbing photo with the 8 head "back and up" and the 6 head "down and low". Wouldn't the 8 cast a longer shadow since his head is higher than the 6? Much like a taller building casting a longer shadow than its shorter neighbor? This is assuming that they both are about the same height.
|
|
|
11-11-2017, 08:08 PM
|
#9
|
Registered User
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 117
|
Honestly.
Shadows????
Come on.
If shadows told the truth, shadows would be used instead of actual images.
A myth.
|
|
|
11-11-2017, 11:07 PM
|
#10
|
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 16,915
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco Santiago
Honestly.
Shadows????
Come on.
If shadows told the truth, shadows would be used instead of actual images.
A myth.
|
Look at the shadow in the photo.
|
|
|
11-12-2017, 01:08 AM
|
#11
|
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 498
|
Kudos to Mr Chaney for speaking on the subject. I know that in many jurisdictions stewards refuse to comment on race related items. I do appreciate that the Cal Stewards are accessible.
|
|
|
11-12-2017, 01:21 AM
|
#12
|
Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
Posts: 52,808
|
The shadow always has an angle. It’s a different one than the camera, but it has angle, just like everything under the sun. They are all relative to the center point of the Light source, in this case the sun.
The distance between the two horses is another factor, no matter how small a difference, there is a difference. For the "shadow has no angle" theory to be true both noses would have to occupy the exact same space relative to the Light source. This includes distance from the ground too.... They cannot physically do that, so the distance between the horses provides just one factor that changes the angle of the shadow and their height above the ground causes another factor. There are others also.....you could break this down into a million reasons including cloud density. But you don’t......you agree to accept the track camera ......no matter how shitty the equipment is
__________________
WE ARE THE DUMBEST COUNTRY ON THE PLANET!
Last edited by JustRalph; 11-12-2017 at 01:24 AM.
|
|
|
11-12-2017, 01:53 AM
|
#13
|
Veteran
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,831
|
The shadows are AHEAD of the horses, so because of the way the photo is taken (slit) , they are shot FIRST. By the time the horses themselves hit the wire , some time has passed and their heads have moved.
|
|
|
11-12-2017, 02:22 AM
|
#14
|
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 4,553
|
In the shadow of the 8 horse in foreground: why is the shadow of the rider's whip curved but straight in the jockeys hand? Also, why are the horses' ears at a lower angle than the horse...compared to the other horses' shadow that shows the ears at the correct angle...?
Also, the snout and the neck of the inside shadow is skinny and dog-like while the outer shadow has a fat neck and weird head...
Last edited by VigorsTheGrey; 11-12-2017 at 02:28 AM.
|
|
|
11-12-2017, 08:09 AM
|
#15
|
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 4,149
|
I think the 6 benefited by the bob and well...it is where the turf meets the surf
|
|
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|