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11-13-2012, 07:12 PM
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That's why I was wondering if there might have been a string of minor injuries, making them back off and come back on training her.
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We know how patient her trainer is .
Some have said he needed her to bulk up after those growth spurts .
She's a big girl , not as powerful looking as Zen , still a big filly .
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11-13-2012, 07:55 PM
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Didnt the Green Monkey have a similar profile before his debut? late 3yr old first start with a long string of workouts?
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Yes, but TGM's dam has dropped five foals that have raced to-date; all winless. A far cry from the output of Vertigineux's foals. Thus not really relevant.
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11-13-2012, 09:04 PM
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Yes, but TGM's dam has dropped five foals that have raced to-date; all winless. A far cry from the output of Vertigineux's foals. Thus not really relevant.
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Slight correction: Sheriff Ryan won a maiden claimer this spring. That one cheap win for TGM's dam doesn't alter the essential point.
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11-14-2012, 08:24 PM
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11-14-2012, 10:19 PM
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Most certainly was that growth spurt that took her so long , lol .
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11-15-2012, 02:50 PM
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she's pretty tall and still has room to add a lot more muscle.
If she runs a solid race here she could build on it.
No Lasix for this debut, and she's owned by the breeder.
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11-16-2012, 10:19 AM
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She wouldn't be running if they didn't think she has a great chance to win!!
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11-16-2012, 03:23 PM
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I've been monitoring her works from the start. She must have had some minor issues because every time it looked like they were starting to ask her, she disappeared from the work tab for awhile and practically had to start over. She hasn't shown a lot of speed in her works. I'm not talking about running style here. I am saying I have seen little evidence she has a serious turn of foot like her older sister. The recent works have been a little better though. The one thing that stands out about her is her appearance. She's freaking gorgeous. The few times I saw video of her she had a "regal" look to her.
I hope she has some talent. I think this is a good race to watch, not bet.
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11-16-2012, 04:25 PM
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The growth spurts makes sense for the delay. There would have been bone changes with those and training would have had to slow down to avoid risking her while that was happening. With the record of her dam, I'm hopeful she'll turn out to be a pretty good horse.
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11-16-2012, 04:29 PM
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This has been a fun thread - I must admit I'm going to miss the "Waiting For Godot" angle.
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11-16-2012, 04:29 PM
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I hope she has some talent. I think this is a good race to watch, not bet.
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I think it is pretty obvious she will be overbet, so I wouldn't necessarily agree that passing is the right option if you have any kind of opinion in the race.
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11-16-2012, 04:40 PM
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I think it is pretty obvious she will be overbet, so I wouldn't necessarily agree that passing is the right option if you have any kind of opinion in the race.
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there's the  who could wire the field for baffert, and there's the  who should run a solid race and not take a ton of money.
If there was a real confident opinion or a huge price for either, it would be a value play.
I just can't say that any of these is worth betting, to be honest. Maybe if I had seen the 2 workout or something...
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11-16-2012, 04:46 PM
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5 is sadler, but the horse was not at all impressive in the debut.
She sucked up to the flow of the race and didn't do any running. It was not an impressive close.
She does have a good trainer, and this is a weak field. However I would take the other two that I just mentioned over her.
5 horses for the multi's and 5 horse ex bx =   
the 7 is another horse I know very little about who isn't impossible on paper, but the five above look more probable.
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11-16-2012, 04:50 PM
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Crazy low win odds MUCH higher in all the exotics. 14mtp, but was NOT bet heavily in the dd pool.
Edit:3mtp taking heavy action now in the exacta. Much better odds if your alive in the 3/4 DD.
Last edited by MightBeSosa; 11-16-2012 at 05:01 PM.
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11-16-2012, 04:52 PM
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EX:
7-8 w 3-4-5-7-8
Win:
7-8
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