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08-23-2018, 02:41 PM
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"Real problems", Elizabeth Warren is sub-human. Mollie Tibbetts is separated from her family, forever.
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08-23-2018, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
You cannot be this goofy?
Question:
Tonight at midnight the race fairy shows up hovering over the city of Chicago. She waves her magic wand and every minority, Black, Hispanic etc disappears from the city. Every single one.
What happens to the murder/shooting rate this coming weekend?
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That race fairy does exist. She has waved her wand before.
They called it the Holocaust. By your own admission you are, "Just another fascist."
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08-23-2018, 03:09 PM
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BS.
Point out SPECIFICALLY what words in his post say that.
Or are you just a drive by once again.
Out up or shut up, magazine carrier.
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
Last edited by Tom; 08-23-2018 at 03:11 PM.
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08-23-2018, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
BS.
Point out SPECIFICALLY what words in his post say that.
Or are you just a drive by once again.
Out up or shut up, magazine carrier.
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It's not in his post. It's just below his name and above his avatar. In other words, it's permanent or at least until he removes it.
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08-23-2018, 03:36 PM
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Undocumented (or illegal) immigrants have the lowest rate of criminal behavior. Documented (or legal) immigrants have the next lowest rate.
Native Born citizens have the highest rate of criminal behavior.
Areas with large immigrant population-both legal and illegal-have lower crime rates than areas with a small immigrant population.
Since 1980, immigration in the United States is up 118%. In the same period, crime is down 36%.
If Christhian (sp) Rivera had not been in Brooklyn, Ia, Mollie Tibbets would still be alive.
If Ted Bundy had not been in Florida, several young women would still be alive.
Both meaningless.
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08-23-2018, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
You cannot be this goofy?
Question:
Tonight at midnight the race fairy shows up hovering over the city of Chicago. She waves her magic wand and every minority, Black, Hispanic etc disappears from the city. Every single one.
What happens to the murder/shooting rate this coming weekend?
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To answer your question, the rates would certainly go down. Just as the rates in early 20th Century New York would have gone down had you removed all the Irish and Germans. And the rates in 1920's Chicago would have gone down had you removed all of the Italians.
The problem with your "Solution" is that you are also removing the decent, hardworking. Blacks, Hispanics, Irish, Germans and Italians. What kind of effect does that have on the economy of the cities involved?
I think your "Solution" is overwhelming proof of one thing.
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08-23-2018, 04:21 PM
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You must be referring to the five links you posted. You are referring to the % of incarceration. I am referring to the crime rate per 100,000. The crime rate per 100,000 inhabitants for Native born citizens is three to four times higher than the crime rate for immigrants. That is according to a study by the CATO institute.
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08-23-2018, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
I think your "Solution" is overwhelming proof of one thing.
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He never even hinted that this would/should be a solution.
It was nothing but a hypothetical question, not the proposal of any sort of "solution."
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08-23-2018, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MargieRose
It is my understanding that most of our ancestors came here through legal means (as far back as laws existed)...they didn't barge or sneak in. My grandmother came here legally through Ellis Island, with proper documentation and with a sponsor. And, she certainly didn't come here expecting aid from a citizen-paid-for welfare system...not that one even existed, at the time. Oh my, how did she ever survive?????
Why should it be any different now?? WHY????
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If your ancestors came here before the 1920's they probably came here legally, because there were very few immigration laws back then. Ellis Island admitted 98% of those who passed through. If you had $25 dollars in your possession or a sponsor you were good to go.
If your grandmother didn't come from England, she was probably treated the same as Mexican or Central American immigrants are today-badly. I imagine she survived the same way the vast majority of Hispanic or Muslim immigrants survive today. By working hard. You don't think so. Look at who is mowing your lawn or trimming your bushes or shoveling your snow, or refilling your coffee cup or washing the dishes at whatever restaurant you frequent.
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08-23-2018, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
You must be referring to the five links you posted. You are referring to the % of incarceration. I am referring to the crime rate per 100,000. The crime rate per 100,000 inhabitants for Native born citizens is three to four times higher than the crime rate for immigrants. That is according to a study by the CATO institute.
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How can the crime rate for illegals be lower than that for US citizens when a disproportionate number of illegal aliens are incarcerated in federal prisons vs US citizens, even using highest estimates of illegals in this country? Numbers for state prisons are conveniently not reported.
In actuality, 100% of illegals have committed a crime, by definition!
The logic in your argument comparing Ted Bundy to the murderer of Mollie Tibbetts is infantile. It's like saying drivers with licenses get in car accidents so we should just let anyone drive a car, even if they don't have a license.
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08-23-2018, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
Undocumented (or illegal) immigrants have the lowest rate of criminal behavior. Documented (or legal) immigrants have the next lowest rate.
Native Born citizens have the highest rate of criminal behavior.
Areas with large immigrant population-both legal and illegal-have lower crime rates than areas with a small immigrant population.
Since 1980, immigration in the United States is up 118%. In the same period, crime is down 36%.
If Christhian (sp) Rivera had not been in Brooklyn, Ia, Mollie Tibbets would still be alive.
If Ted Bundy had not been in Florida, several young women would still be alive.
Both meaningless.
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08-23-2018, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyb
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Ooooooh, that one's gotta sting...
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08-23-2018, 07:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
Undocumented (or illegal) immigrants have the lowest rate of criminal behavior. Documented (or legal) immigrants have the next lowest rate.
Native Born citizens have the highest rate of criminal behavior.
Areas with large immigrant population-both legal and illegal-have lower crime rates than areas with a small immigrant population.
Since 1980, immigration in the United States is up 118%. In the same period, crime is down 36%.
If Christhian (sp) Rivera had not been in Brooklyn, Ia, Mollie Tibbets would still be alive.
If Ted Bundy had not been in Florida, several young women would still be alive.
Both meaningless.
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Source? Wishful thinking is not fact. Oy.
Also, this
Since 1980, immigration in the United States is up 118%. In the same period, crime is down 36%.
Correlation is not causation, this is utter BS.
Last edited by RunForTheRoses; 08-23-2018 at 07:33 PM.
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08-23-2018, 09:00 PM
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Nice stats. Also no drug dealers have been robbed according to Most. They don't call the police so it didn't happen. What illegal do you think reports being the victim of a crime ? People commit most crimes in their own areas, where they live, against their own community. The amount of crimes committed by illegals is as impossible to figure as the number of illegal border crossings. Anyone that has an exact number to either is spouting nonsense to support their agenda.
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