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11-09-2020, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
Is Cuomo a murderer? Simple question that you continually fail to answer.
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I answers this idiotic right wing myth many times.
Your ex is the cruel murder who attempted to use the economy to get re-elected, recklessly doing diddly squat. Nero, watching the fires burn.
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11-09-2020, 04:26 PM
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#7487
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,171
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Originally Posted by hcap
I answers this idiotic right wing myth many times.
Your ex is the cruel murder who attempted to use the economy to get re-elected, recklessly doing diddly squat. Nero, watching the fires burn.
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Is Cuomo a murderer for forcing nursing homes to take covid patients knowing full well of the danger? Yes or no?
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11-09-2020, 04:30 PM
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#7488
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Join Date: Nov 2002
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Originally Posted by tucker6
Is Cuomo a murderer for forcing nursing homes to take covid patients knowing full well of the danger? Yes or no?
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How many times must I post that map showing NYS did way better than most other states?
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11-09-2020, 04:35 PM
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#7489
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Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 22,649
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Originally Posted by hcap
How many times must I post that map showing NYS did way better than most other states?
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exactly, they only had 37K+ die
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11-09-2020, 04:39 PM
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#7490
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Originally Posted by hcap
How many times must I post that map showing NYS did way better than most other states?
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Did Cuomo murder all those thousands of helpless old folks by locking them into a facility running rampant with covid? If Trump were governor, what would you call him?
It's okay to call him a murderer Harry. It's what he is. Negligent homicide. You don't want to answer the question because you'd have to admit mistakes were made on both sides and some were bigger than others. You rail against N95 masks but won't whisper an opinion that killed thousands. Quite literally killed thousands.
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11-09-2020, 05:32 PM
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#7491
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 20,612
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Originally Posted by hcap
Is that you Donald?
Scott Atlas?
Boxcar?
Btw, have you checked hospitalizations recently?
Are they dropping?
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It's not Donald, Atlas, or the lying liberal media.
It's classhandicapper, the inconvenient truth teller.
Hospitalizations will continue rising because cases are rising in states with low infection rates and in rural areas where it has not spread widely yet. I don't know where the top is, but we are still a few thousand below the prior two peaks. Nothing is happening yet that I didn't already know would happen, including you posting a bunch of misleading graphs and nonsense.
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Last edited by classhandicapper; 11-09-2020 at 05:33 PM.
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11-09-2020, 05:55 PM
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#7492
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
It's not Donald, Atlas, or the lying liberal media.
It's classhandicapper, the inconvenient truth teller.
Hospitalizations will continue rising because cases are rising in states with low infection rates and in rural areas where it has not spread widely yet. I don't know where the top is, but we are still a few thousand below the prior two peaks. Nothing is happening yet that I didn't already know would happen, including you posting a bunch of misleading graphs and nonsense.
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You told us and tell us NOW, new cases are not a valid way to determine the degree of virus spread. Hospitalizations were.
No there is a but?
BTW, that but is the same but I have been telling you since you parroted Scott Atlas herd immunity crap. The virus does not get stopped by state borders.
Or predicted properly by taking a short term approach to data analysis.
Last time we discussed this maybe a week ago, I told you hospitalizations would be back at the same level of the earliest peaks.
You disagreed. Take a look.
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Last edited by hcap; 11-09-2020 at 05:57 PM.
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11-09-2020, 11:25 PM
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#7493
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Behind the Pine Curtain
Posts: 10,646
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Originally Posted by hcap
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Looks like the Joe and Ho show might put the brakes on keeping the blue hairs safe
https://twitter.com/antonioregalado/...11140761706496
A lot of people currently clicking on our interview last year with Zeke Emanuel, member of Biden's covid task force, who argued that life past 75 was not worth living not worth prolonging life past 75, because it's a physical and mental decline and you aren't contributing much anymore to society, but taking up huge $$ resources. He estimates $7 spend on elders for every $1 spent on people < 18.
I have to assume people want to know, if he believes this, how far he thinks society should go against covid-19, which kills mostly in older age ranges.
Last edited by ElKabong; 11-09-2020 at 11:29 PM.
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11-09-2020, 11:46 PM
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#7494
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,628
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
Those graphs are nonsense.
As our ability to test increases so does our ability measure how many cases there are at any given time.
At one point at the PEAK in the northeast it was spreading like wildfire in NY, NJ, MA, PA, MD etc,, but we had no capacity to test and prove it. We were doing 10k, 20k, 30k tests a day. So you were sent home and told to quarantine unless you got much worse. Then you went to the hospital.
Now, we are testing 1.5 MILLION people per day.
We are testing everyone that feels sick, everyone they've come into contact with, everyone that thinks they may have come into contact with it, people with common cold who are afraid they have it etc..
We are finding a MASSIVELY HIGHER percentage of all cases out there.
None of which is to say we aren't in a 3rd phase. We are. It's spreading to new states, rural areas, and in places where it has already been there has been a small uptick, but looking at CASE DATA is just plain wrong and foolish.
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NONE OF THOSE GRAPHS were from the USA.
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11-10-2020, 12:47 AM
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#7495
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
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11-10-2020, 02:28 AM
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#7496
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Nebraska
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
NONE OF THOSE GRAPHS were from the USA.
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We do not live in the USA now, we live in the USSA. Suck up, you un-cuck.
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11-10-2020, 03:30 AM
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#7497
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 30,398
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
Looks like the Joe and Ho show might put the brakes on keeping the blue hairs safe
https://twitter.com/antonioregalado/...11140761706496
A lot of people currently clicking on our interview last year with Zeke Emanuel, member of Biden's covid task force, who argued that life past 75 was not worth living not worth prolonging life past 75, because it's a physical and mental decline and you aren't contributing much anymore to society, but taking up huge $$ resources. He estimates $7 spend on elders for every $1 spent on people < 18.
I have to assume people want to know, if he believes this, how far he thinks society should go against covid-19, which kills mostly in older age ranges. |
You Hayseed are even worse than boxcar.
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11-10-2020, 03:36 PM
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Location: Queens, NY
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Unlike our delusional troll friend, I tell unspun truths.
Hospitalizations in the US are at 59,275. That's still below both the 1st wave and 2nd wave peaks. So yes, we are in a 3rd phase and it is very likely to reach a new peak in hospitalizations, but that's primarily because the virus is moving to new regions of the country and to rural areas that were not infected badly in Phase 1 and Phase 2. That was expected.
The debate was whether we would see exponential growth again in areas already hard hit in Phase 1 and Phase 2 like NYC, Long island, and Westchester or whether some level of herd immunity would suppress it. There have been small spikes in those areas, but no major exponential growth.
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11-10-2020, 04:37 PM
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#7499
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Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 22,649
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ElKabong
Looks like the Joe and Ho show might put the brakes on keeping the blue hairs safe
https://twitter.com/antonioregalado/...11140761706496
A lot of people currently clicking on our interview last year with Zeke Emanuel, member of Biden's covid task force, who argued that life past 75 was not worth living not worth prolonging life past 75, because it's a physical and mental decline and you aren't contributing much anymore to society, but taking up huge $$ resources. He estimates $7 spend on elders for every $1 spent on people < 18.
I have to assume people want to know, if he believes this, how far he thinks society should go against covid-19, which kills mostly in older age ranges. |
did he say 'over 75 and life is not worth living'?
or is he laying the groundwork for the 'biden health plan', where there will be extreme limits on what is 'covered' for people over 75?
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11-10-2020, 06:55 PM
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A man hears what he wants
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Location: Boston, Ma
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