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05-24-2005, 12:03 PM
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velocitician
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Angles
These highly personable nuances one discovers that often SUPERCEDE racing logic. I have given several of mine names like "two lines over the field," "splitzacta," "going off form" and "order within chaos."
Mark Cramer has touted one for years: track change class drop and there is a qualifier on that Angle: KIMMEL in the 2nd at Philly today Tuesday May 24th.
Let's see how that one works TODAY
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05-24-2005, 12:37 PM
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Angles
46....., you should post this in the selections section also,someone playing that track today may appreciate the info. and not see it here. Just an idea.
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05-24-2005, 03:51 PM
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velocitician
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good idea
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Originally Posted by Skanoochies
46....., you should post this in the selections section also,someone playing that track today may appreciate the info. and not see it here.
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BUT, I was hoping to start a thread on HOW folks discover angles.
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05-24-2005, 05:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skanoochies
46....., you should post this in the selections section also,someone playing that track today may appreciate the info. and not see it here. Just an idea.
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46 doesn't post selections, fact is this would be Cramers selection I'm sure as the horse didn't win. 46's record is still a healthy 0 for 0.
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05-24-2005, 05:17 PM
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velocitician
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ideas
Ideas are all I "tout" thanks
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05-24-2005, 05:31 PM
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velocitician
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results
FLYTODIXIE broke alertly then was taken in hand, made a wide bid on the turn then edged clear in the final furlong. KIMMEL dueled outside to the far turn, led briefly, then battled gamely to the finish. ENDLESS MOUNTAIN was outrun early, angled wide on the turn and never threatened. RAHYONRAHY vied for the lead inside and began retreating on the turn. JUSTINTREPID dueled between foes to the turn then stopped abruptly. RUNNINGWITHFIRE trailed throughout.
horse wasn't embarassed either
Last edited by 46zilzal; 05-24-2005 at 05:33 PM.
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05-24-2005, 07:15 PM
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How 'bout this angle?
Maiden runs token up-the-track finish on dirt but has a turf pedigree.
Then fires 2nd out on the hemp.
Just the fact that the first race is so bad is an angle.
fffastt
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05-24-2005, 08:08 PM
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PA Steward
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Actually, I think this is a good idea....I think we had an angle thread or two in the past, and they were enjoyable....
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05-24-2005, 08:19 PM
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Maiden FTS'ers with a ML of 20-1 who show nothing in their works with an average or below jockey and trainer and going off at odds in the 6-1 range.
Somethings going on here that we may never understand but that doesn't mean we should ignore what is possibly and probably stable money.
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05-24-2005, 08:47 PM
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Pace Cappa
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How about 2nd time starters with first time lasix. Any of you DB guys check this one out ?
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05-24-2005, 10:05 PM
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Slightly annoyed
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Zafonic,
I have YTD data on around 25 tracks and 2nd time starters with first time lasix are 26/229 for an 11% win rate with a .83 ROI.
Regards,
Brian
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Originally Posted by zafonic
How about 2nd time starters with first time lasix. Any of you DB guys check this one out ?
ZAFONIC
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05-24-2005, 10:11 PM
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Pace Cappa
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Thank You Misteranthropic. I figured the ROI would of been a little bit higher on that.
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05-24-2005, 10:40 PM
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Just another Facist
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3rd back from a layoff and racing within 10 days of the 2nd start back.
anybody that can drag that out of a database........... I would love to hear it
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05-24-2005, 10:56 PM
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Slightly annoyed
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Ralph,
Here you go: 3rd back from layoff racing within 10 days of last start. In my YTD db this criteria is 1/9 with an ROI of .53
Regards,
Brian
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
3rd back from a layoff and racing within 10 days of the 2nd start back.
anybody that can drag that out of a database........... I would love to hear it
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05-24-2005, 11:18 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zafonic
How about 2nd time starters with first time lasix. Any of you DB guys check this one out ?
ZAFONIC
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All tracks
535/4572
Win% 11.7%
Bet $9144
Ret $7287
roi .77
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