Stewards statement on Classic to media

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by Scanman

The objection should have been on both Bayern and Toast of New York. If he wins the objection, he's placed 2nd, a difference of $600k.

Now, there's a fairytale ending for all California Chrome devotees.
The operative word being "fairytale".

[dilanesp]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Pandy...you hit the nail right on the head with the article of yours that you presented yesterday. This is "politics"...and nothing else. The stewards' hands were tied...and Garcia could have taken a gun out at the break and nothing would happen. As I've been saying the last couple of days, there was nothing surprising about the non-disqualification. We ALL knew that Bayern wasn't coming down. What WAS surprising was the bullshit excuse which accompanied the non-DQ. "The foul only affected Shared Belief...and it didn't cost SB a placing"...the story went. NONSENSE! The entire RACE was impacted by what Bayern's did. NOTHING would have remained the same if Bayern behaved normally at the start of that race.

If there is an "unwritten law" in California stating that infractions at the gate are non-punishable by disqualification, then put that law in the books, for heaven's sake...and end these types of controversies once and for all. That way, we can be spared of all the bullshit excuses from these lame stewards.

There's a written rule that fouls only result in DQ's when they occur at a point in the race whete the stewards conclude that they cost a horse a placing. Thus, the "most fouls at the gate don't result in DQ's" rule IS written.

[pandy]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Pandy...you hit the nail right on the head with the article of yours that you presented yesterday. This is "politics"...and nothing else. The stewards' hands were tied...and Garcia could have taken a gun out at the break and nothing would happen. As I've been saying the last couple of days, there was nothing surprising about the non-disqualification. We ALL knew that Bayern wasn't coming down. What WAS surprising was the bullshit excuse which accompanied the non-DQ. "The foul only affected Shared Belief...and it didn't cost SB a placing"...the story went. NONSENSE! The entire RACE was impacted by what Bayern's did. NOTHING would have remained the same if Bayern behaved normally at the start of that race.

If there is an "unwritten law" in California stating that infractions at the gate are non-punishable by disqualification, then put that law in the books, for heaven's sake...and end these types of controversies once and for all. That way, we can be spared of all the bullshit excuses from these lame stewards.

Thanks. Can you imagine what would have happened if Baffert trained Shared Belief instead of Bayern? Baffert would have been livid and I guarantee you that he would try to take some sort of legal action.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by pandy

Thanks. Can you imagine what would have happened if Baffert trained Shared Belief instead of Bayern? Baffert would have been livid and I guarantee you that he would try to take some sort of legal action.

Or if Jerry Jam owned SB.

[Mr_Ed]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

Or if Jerry Jam owned SB.

Or if John McEnroe owned SB?

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by Mr_Ed

Or if John McEnroe owned SB?

you can't be serious?

[Mr_Ed]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

you can't be serious?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekQ_Ja02gTY

[Stillriledup]

Trainer Peter Miller now saying if it was him, the horse comes down and there was bias towards Baffert.

Stein and Hardoon were telling Chaney that people feel there was a bias towards Baffert and that Bob has more power than the stewards, of course, it was made tongue in cheek with a few giggles after it was said, but really, it SEEMS true.

Chaney said that Baffert gets no favors from them, but i have to ask, did he get a huge favor when his horse death investigation yielded no suspension, fine or anything? Is that not a HUGE favor to essentially say "gee, we dont know what happened, Bob is in the clear"

[pandy]

The fact that stewards allow rough riding in major races is dangerous. Did Joe Bravo ever get suspended for his ride on Danza in this year's Derby? There wasn't even an inquiry but if you watch the replay, Bravo was trapped so he bulled his way out and slammed into Medal Count (the chartcaller has it in the chart). Bravo could have caused a major accident, but, he obviously felt it was worth the risk because he knows that they never take a horse down in the Derby.

[pandy]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

Trainer Peter Miller now saying if it was him, the horse comes down and there was bias towards Baffert.

Stein and Hardoon were telling Chaney that people feel there was a bias towards Baffert and that Bob has more power than the stewards, of course, it was made tongue in cheek with a few giggles after it was said, but really, it SEEMS true.

Chaney said that Baffert gets no favors from them, but i have to ask, did he get a huge favor when his horse death investigation yielded no suspension, fine or anything? Is that not a HUGE favor to essentially say "gee, we dont know what happened, Bob is in the clear"

They really went after Baffert hard when those 7 horses mysteriously died. They had a model, Bo Derek, investigate. You can't make this stuff up!

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by pandy

The fact that stewards allow rough riding in major races is dangerous. Did Joe Bravo ever get suspended for his ride on Danza in this year's Derby? There wasn't even an inquiry but if you watch the replay, Bravo was trapped so he bulled his way out and slammed into Medal Count (the chartcaller has it in the chart). Bravo could have caused a major accident, but, he obviously felt it was worth the risk because he knows that they never take a horse down in the Derby.

Here's a Baffert horse causing obvious interference at the wire, drifting out under the left handed whip, costing placings and yet, no inquiry or objection or anything. Its right here in black and white, you don't even need to see the head on to see Baffert's horse drift out. Bafferts is the dark colored horse with the light green cap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is4q1L6JiSI

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by pandy

They really went after Baffert hard when those 7 horses mysteriously died. They had a model, Bo Derek, investigate. You can't make this stuff up!

Its incredible that he got zero days suspension and didn't have his license reviewed. Even if you somehow convince yourself he didnt do it on purpose and it was an "accident" there's still the issue of malpractice. Those horses are screaming from the grave and nobody cares. Michael Vick went to JAIL for dogfighting and this guy didn't even get a 1 day suspension or a fine for all these horses dying in his care. Not 1 day or 1 penny.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

You're not a lawyer....I shocked....shocked I say.

But he stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night!
John McEnroe.....