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Old 03-11-2018, 04:06 PM   #286
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This is EXACTLY why the game is floundering. Smart money has turned into Nostradamus.

It's incredible how often the late money is right on. You'll see a horse at 6-5 morning fluctuate between 3-5 and even money for 17 minutes. The last click he'll be 9-5 and a 7-2 morning line runner (who had been hovering around 3-1) is now 6-5 and wins by a football field.

I have no idea what type of nefarious behavior is giving the late money the edge but it is impossible for people to be THAT right using the same rudimentary data we all have. IM-POS-SIB-LE
I have been retired now for a couple of years and watch about 100 races a week. YES, it is "jaw dropping" uncanny how the late money is right on. in summary the late money is 'prophetic".
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Old 03-11-2018, 04:11 PM   #287
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Yes...but can we be sure that all 52 cards are in each deck?
Of course all 52 cards are in each deck.

But the aces and the face cards needed for a blackjack when the count gets high?

Clumped together in a section of the deck that never gets dealt.


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Old 03-11-2018, 04:22 PM   #288
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Of course all 52 cards are in each deck.

But the aces and the face cards needed for a blackjack when the count gets high?

Clumped together in a section of the deck that never gets dealt.


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Old 03-11-2018, 04:24 PM   #289
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Handicapping angle

Question: How do you know when your horse is poised for a solid effort.
Answer: When his odds drop DURING a race.
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Old 03-11-2018, 04:28 PM   #290
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The screen shots are of today's 8th at GS. One is taken about the start of the first turn, the second is taken at about the second call. Check out how much money still gets put in the pool between 24 and 49 seconds into the race.


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Old 03-11-2018, 04:32 PM   #291
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Sorry wrong screen shots.

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Old 03-11-2018, 04:33 PM   #292
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A few minutes ago in AQU R6 I bet the #3 horse facing up to the gate horse at 2-1.

During the race, while the #3 was tracking dueling leaders on the turn:

I noticed the odds had dropped to 4-5.

But sometimes the late money is not all knowing.

My rider, Dylan Davis, found traffic in the stretch, checked, and finished 3rd.

Think I got the worst of it twice. Late odds drop. Botched ride in the stretch.


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Old 03-11-2018, 04:33 PM   #293
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Aqu just now - 2 horse is 5-1 in the gate. 3-1 by the first call, 5-2 after that - not sure what he ended up at - wins by daylight while the 7 who was the big favorite all along off the board.
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Old 03-11-2018, 04:53 PM   #294
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Aqu just now - 2 horse is 5-1 in the gate. 3-1 by the first call, 5-2 after that - not sure what he ended up at - wins by daylight while the 7 who was the big favorite all along off the board.

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Old 03-11-2018, 04:59 PM   #295
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The screen shots are of today's 8th at GS. One is taken about the start of the first turn, the second is taken at about the second call. Check out how much money still gets put in the pool between 24 and 49 seconds into the race.


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Are you claiming that there was past posting?
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Old 03-11-2018, 05:04 PM   #296
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Are you claiming that there was past posting?
I am posting this information, not making any accusations. For a tote company that boasts that it can process 70,000 transactions per second, this seems to be a very long time to get all the money into the win pool.
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One other thing, add the win pools for each horse, the total comes to $241,525. Almost $15,000 is unaccounted for.
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:37 PM   #298
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One other thing, add the win pools for each horse, the total comes to $241,525. Almost $15,000 is unaccounted for.
My bad, found my error.
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Old 03-11-2018, 08:15 PM   #299
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Happening in exactas too.
Bet one that was paying $11 right before the start.
Paid $7.60.

Might have to drop Win, Exacta, and DD's too.
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It is pretty obvious, the big CRW teams are making a killing on the backs of the smaller players at GP. That is why the handle is so big. Why the smaller players continue to bet the place I can't say.
I have a feeling that these CRW teams are the reason for the sudden post time changes at Santa Anita to 12pm Thur/Fri/Sat and 11:30am on Sundays. Even the racing office knew nothing about it until it was announced!

Only thing that makes sense is that its too long of a day for these CRW teams between GP and SA. I still have no idea how it is legal for the Stronach Group to own the race tracks and the tote company.
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