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Old 07-22-2016, 11:11 AM   #7471
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... I watched until about 11:15 and then couldn't take his repetitive rambling any more. ...
I'm with you. I tried to tune in and sounded to me like the condensed version of everything he's said over and over again without the 'by-the-way' segues into ad-lib soundbite fodder.
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Old 07-22-2016, 11:11 AM   #7472
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Perhaps it's implied in the Keep America Safe Again theme.
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Old 07-22-2016, 11:16 AM   #7473
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I'm with you. I tried to tune in and sounded to me like the condensed version of everything he's said over and over again without the 'by-the-way' segues into ad-lib soundbite fodder.
His content was okay...but an orator he isn't.
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Old 07-22-2016, 11:18 AM   #7474
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Perhaps it's implied in the Keep America Safe Again theme.
Simple-minded libs think the ideal way to keep America safe is to take away everyone's guns. Keep guns out of the hands of everyone...except of course the crooks who would never give a good flip about gun laws.
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Old 07-22-2016, 06:56 PM   #7475
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I'm with you. I tried to tune in and sounded to me like the condensed version of everything he's said over and over again without the 'by-the-way' segues into ad-lib soundbite fodder.
I didn't listen because he comes across as annoying and a pompous blowhard, but I read the text of the speech and I agree that it was as boring as a shopping list. It was like something a high school kid would write. A long repetitious list of how bad everything is in this country and a list of Hillary's sins and a list of the most general, empty promises to fix all of the above. Just the same old screed to the base. No real ideas and no inspirational message.

The only thing in his favor is that there is absolutely no reason to expect anything better out of Hillary. And she will sound like every man's ex wife or girlfriend nagging about 'you never help out around here' and 'why don't you ever take me anywhere'.
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Old 07-22-2016, 08:29 PM   #7476
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The only thing in his favor is that there is absolutely no reason to expect anything better out of Hillary. And she will sound like every man's ex wife or girlfriend nagging about 'you never help out around here' and 'why don't you ever take me anywhere'.

Sounds familiar.
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Old 07-22-2016, 09:04 PM   #7477
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I didn't listen because he comes across as annoying and a pompous blowhard, but I read the text of the speech and I agree that it was as boring as a shopping list. It was like something a high school kid would write. A long repetitious list of how bad everything is in this country and a list of Hillary's sins and a list of the most general, empty promises to fix all of the above. Just the same old screed to the base. No real ideas and no inspirational message.

The only thing in his favor is that there is absolutely no reason to expect anything better out of Hillary. And she will sound like every man's ex wife or girlfriend nagging about 'you never help out around here' and 'why don't you ever take me anywhere'.

Agreed. The options are Libertarian Johnson or Green Jill Stein or a write-in.
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Old 07-22-2016, 09:27 PM   #7478
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I taped the speech and just got through watching the first 20 minutes--because that's when I lost interest. He could have really soared here, but he just fell flat.

I was hoping for so much more.
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Old 07-22-2016, 09:48 PM   #7479
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I taped the speech and just got through watching the first 20 minutes--because that's when I lost interest. He could have really soared here, but he just fell flat.

I was hoping for so much more.
What exactly were you hoping for? My wife, who is a Republican, was planning on voting for Hillary but changed her mind after watching Trumps speech. I thought it was excellent also.
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:18 PM   #7480
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I'm not the biggest Obama fan at all. But you cant place the blame of debt all on him. His predecessor left him a big steaming pile of dog crap before leaving. We've had 16 years of lousy Presidents. Hopefully Trump can fix this. I KNOW Hillary can't.
Do some research......Obama has increased the debt more than every prez combined, prior to him
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:47 PM   #7481
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The only speech that matters is this.....

He is not Hillary.
I need no other reason to vote for him.
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Old 07-23-2016, 12:59 AM   #7482
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Trump has nearly pulled even with Clinton in post convention polling.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN1022ES
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Old 07-23-2016, 09:23 AM   #7483
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Process rigged to screw Sanders

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Trump has nearly pulled even with Clinton in post convention polling.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN1022ES
That is before the release of emails proving that the process was rigged. The emails prove the DNC was out to get Bernie out of the way.
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Old 07-23-2016, 09:48 AM   #7484
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Trump has nearly pulled even with Clinton in post convention polling.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN1022ES
The RCP average of polls showed Clinton with a 3.5 lead before the Reublican convention.

This story takes one firm, which had an outlier poll showing a 10 point Clinton lead before and has now regressed to the mean. It is a non-story unless other polls also show Trump gaining.

Stop paying attention to single polls. Look at the RCP average of ALL polls and you'll have a much better idea of what is going on. Moving forward there will be more and more state level polling and by late October those polls, in aggregate, will be more predictive than even the RCP national average.
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Old 07-23-2016, 09:54 AM   #7485
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One more thing: A poll conducted July 18-22 really isnt measuring post convention voter sentiment. They don't break down how many were polled on the 22nd but those interviewed on that date would be the only ones "post convention".

This is more accurately described as measuring voter sentiment during the Republican convention.
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